2007 1200RT unusual power sockets left rear and right rear...

opijules · Sep 7, 2017

Hi team,

I just bought a used 2007 R1200RT, and found to my surprise that it doesn't have Powerlet outlets that I can use for phone and electric heated gear. The machine DOES have mini-DINs left and right sides just below the passenger seats - where the additional Powerlet would go.

Could anyone suggest:
1. what those connectors might be for; and
2. Is there a standard accessory available to put a powerlet outlet in the normal position my the rider's left knee, just under where the radio controls would be.

Many thanks in advance,

Julian O.

Omega Man · Sep 7, 2017

Welcome to the forum!
Might be a good idea to post a picture of what you have. In the past there has been some confusion as to the names of the outlets and what some call them.
Gary

AntonLargiader · Sep 7, 2017

Powerlet is a brand, and they make all kinds of stuff. Usually the DIN-style accessory sockets are referred to as.. DIN sockets. Around here at least.

Dann · Sep 7, 2017

I have a 2007 with the "powerlet" sockets in front and rear of the bike.
I never use them. They become quickly useless for heated clothing when you start adding stuff

All you have for both front and rear socket is 10A total
If you have a passenger you don't have enough for the 2 heated vests.
I prefer using a pigtail connected directly to the battery.

YMMV

opijules · Sep 7, 2017

Omega Man said:
Welcome to the forum!
Might be a good idea to post a picture of what you have.
Gary

I should have thought of that. Here's a picture...

Again, there's one on each side at the rear, but nothing on the front.

opijules · Sep 7, 2017

Dann said:
... I prefer using a pigtail connected directly to the battery.

YMMV

Hmmm... with a 10A limit on the Powerlets that might be a simpler solution. I have a Gerbing jacket liner and gloves, and I'm planning on pants sometime down the road. I'm fairly certain the liner came with a fused coax pigtail for that purpose...
I'll check.

Thanks.

Dann · Sep 7, 2017

opijules said:
Hmmm... with a 10A limit on the Powerlets that might be a simpler solution. I have a Gerbing jacket liner and gloves, and I'm planning on pants sometime down the road. I'm fairly certain the liner came with a fused coax pigtail for that purpose...
I'll check.

Thanks.

Pants & liners will bring you to 10A.
If you add gloves & socks you will be at around 14-15A

Heated clothing requires basically 1A for each 12W of power they use.
72W liner = 6A draw, 48W pants = 4A draw etc.

opijules · Sep 7, 2017

Omega Man said:
... Welcome to the forum!

Gary

Oh, and thanks, Gary

Quick bio:
I've had a '99 R1100RT for the past three years - my Green Goddess. It replaced an '06 Kawasaki Concours which I bought back in '11 to get back into riding after 35 years (I rode back in the UK for a while). I commute weekly between home in Elk River MN and work in Rockford IL, which is 360 miles each way. The bike is stabled in Rockford so I can ride it back for the weekend if the weather looks halfway decent. Winter's drawing on, however, and I don't like the cold so much any more. I've wanted an R1200RT for years, and today's the day I finally upgraded. The heated grips and seat, and the cruise control - not to mention the new frame design and the smoother engine and gearbox and 50lbs less dry weight - are going to make the ride a lot nicer now. MOA member for a couple of years.
Good to be among new friends; I'll be picking all your brains for a while to come; I'll try not to be a pest!

opijules · Sep 7, 2017

Dann said:
Pants & liners will bring you to 10A.
If you add gloves & socks you will be at around 14-15A

Thanks, good to know.

"If you can park it, and not turn around to admire it before walking away, you bought the wrong one."

Not turn around? I just bought it today, I'll be sleeping next to it in the garage for the next week at least ;-)

Omega Man · Sep 8, 2017

opijules said:
I should have thought of that. Here's a picture...

View attachment 63675

Again, there's one on each side at the rear, but nothing on the front.

That helps- me anyways

I would refer to that as a "DIN" connector-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector

I can't say I've seen one on a bike before.....I'm used to seeing them on audio more than power.

OM

opijules · Sep 8, 2017

Omega Man said:
That helps- me anyways

I would refer to that as a "DIN" connector-
I can't say I've seen one on a bike before.....I'm used to seeing them on audio more than power.

OM

Well yes, it's a bona-fide mini-DIN - smaller than the ones used in Europe for many years in audio systems and adopted over here for Musical Instrument Digital Interface (MIDI), before the days of USB. The connectors and weather seals are professional grade, very well integrated into the holes in the bike - no clumsy hack job.

So that's the point really; I don't know what they are for. I was hoping somebody would be able to say something like "Oh yes, that's for the XYZ helmet headset intercom system", though why there are two connectors at the back and none at the front escapes me: it would be most inconvenient for the driver to connect to a connector behind him/her.

Well, I guess the next thing is to pull the seat, etc off and look at the wiring to the sockets and see if I can deduce anything.

I appreciate the comments so far.

k12lts · Sep 8, 2017

J&M intercoms use plugs like that for headset connections. Follow the wires and see if you find an intercom box or some other kind of audio device.

AntonLargiader · Sep 8, 2017

Autocom also used those for their headsets and devices. They are not power outlets.

As the wiki article mentions, there are a number of different pin configurations in that type connector and there are a lot of different connector types described by DIN. The one we generally use for power is the 12mm power socket, DIN 4165.

lkchris · Sep 13, 2017

Yes, those are aftermarket items added by a previous owner and are not BMW parts that came with the bike when it was new.

You can browse realoem.com and determine the BMW parts you need to replace those removed. Or, your dealer can help you.

The BMW items in fact are ISO 4165 sockets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4165

pglaves · Sep 13, 2017

Omega Man said:
That helps- me anyways

I would refer to that as a "DIN" connector-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector

I can't say I've seen one on a bike before.....I'm used to seeing them on audio more than power.

OM

From that Wiki link:

"There are DIN standards for a large number of different connectors, therefore the term "DIN connector" alone does not unambiguously identify any particular type of connector unless the document number of the relevant DIN standard is added (e.g., "DIN 45322 connector")."

Omega Man · Sep 13, 2017

PGlaves said:
From that Wiki link:

"There are DIN standards for a large number of different connectors, therefore the term "DIN connector" alone does not unambiguously identify any particular type of connector unless the document number of the relevant DIN standard is added (e.g., "DIN 45322 connector")."

Yep, that's why I included the link- not just the picture.
OM

schmails · Sep 24, 2017

k12lts said:
J&M intercoms use plugs like that for headset connections. Follow the wires and see if you find an intercom box or some other kind of audio device.

I had a JM CB radio (with intercom) on my RT when I bought it from the P.O.

Good unit, but I mainly use my SENA.
But the install had a Mini DIN connector in my Powerlet socket area.
I took it out and returned it to stock. Sold the kit on EBay.

—ChrisD

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