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    Dress for fall & avoid it AlanColes's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by daboo View Post
    Alan (or others) -- do you have a problem with rain leaking through your riding gear?...
    I like Olympia gear, very good gear at very reasonable prices.

    I have a number of suits, including the Olympia Airglide, BMW Trailguard, BMW Airflow, and Rev'IT Ignition 2 jacket with their Gear 2 pants. I have the waterproof/breathable liners, but unlike your AST2 and some other outfits, mine are inside liners verse built into the outer shell. Because of this they work by allowing the gear to get wet but are supposed to stop it from getting to you. My experience has been that I do get wet with all of these after about 1-2 hours of riding in a downpour. Because my Rev'IT Rain suit packs down to almost as small as the liners, I have switched to the rain suit so I don't need to remember to have the appropriate liner and it keeps the exterior of my gear dry as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by daboo View Post
    When dry, a cooling vest will provide a surprising amount of warmth. Of course, it is only a vest, not a jacket liner, so your arms will not be warmed.

    I bought one from Cycle Gear last year for about $29. I was walking with a friend at a very fast pace in 90 degree temps. He was sweating really bad. I was nice and cool. They work. I'm not sure this is one of those deals where if you pay lots for it, you get more benefit. At $29, this one worked like a champ. Bring a large waterproof bag to store it in and fill it with water before you leave in the morning. I used a small "dry" bag from REI for mine.

    Chris
    Haven't used my vest yet (bought it for the SLC trip), but the Rev'IT cool vest isn't supposed to provide any warmth because it is supposed to be (time will tell) quite breathable so that it doesn't impede too much airflow. As I say, I'll find out mid-July. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by daboo View Post
    When dry, a cooling vest will provide a surprising amount of warmth. Of course, it is only a vest, not a jacket liner, so your arms will not be warmed.
    Thanks Chris, even more good information. I disconnected from the ability of a dry "wet" vest to provide insulation against cold. Will I chuck my heated vest before climbing 14 thousand foot passes, no.

    DG: It was NOT my intention to hijack your OP but similarities encouraged me to chime in. On the one hand there is routing regardless of weather, "gear protect me" and my perhaps subtile, or not, suggestion is to ride out of the worst of weather. This to me, is a luxury. My Avatar is a satellite shot of weather that hit me on the head, from which there was no escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanColes View Post
    I like Olympia gear, very good gear at very reasonable prices.

    I have a number of suits, including the Olympia Airglide, BMW Trailguard, BMW Airflow, and Rev'IT Ignition 2 jacket with their Gear 2 pants. I have the waterproof/breathable liners, but unlike your AST2 and some other outfits, mine are inside liners verse built into the outer shell. Because of this they work by allowing the gear to get wet but are supposed to stop it from getting to you. My experience has been that I do get wet with all of these after about 1-2 hours of riding in a downpour. Because my Rev'IT Rain suit packs down to almost as small as the liners, I have switched to the rain suit so I don't need to remember to have the appropriate liner and it keeps the exterior of my gear dry as well.

    Haven't used my vest yet (bought it for the SLC trip), but the Rev'IT cool vest isn't supposed to provide any warmth because it is supposed to be (time will tell) quite breathable so that it doesn't impede too much airflow. As I say, I'll find out mid-July. ;-)
    We hit bucket loads of rain on the first day of our trip south. It rained almost solid and heavy most of the time from Seattle to Baker City, OR. I didn't bring my AST2 on that ride, but an Olympia Dakar jacket. The new Olympia line uses a waterproof/windproof/breathable windbreaker like jacket that can be worn inside the jacket...or outside. I took to wearing it on the outside after the first day when it looked like we'd hit rain and it worked like a champ.

    On that first day though, I had brought along the TourMaster rain jacket. I'm sure it was perspiration, but the inside was soaked and it's not made of a material that lets water through. It'll be the last time I use it.

    I'm not adverse to "cheating" and mixing gear. I had a Olympia Transitions jacket with one of those waterproof windbreaker style jackets and I'd put it on the inside of the AST2 as an extra layer. The commute was an hour to hour and a half each way, so if the gear was going to leak, it would've.

    One thing I do also that helps, is to treat my gear with waterproofing spray that I buy from Fred Meyer. It doesn't necessarily make the gear more waterproof, but it does keep it from getting waterlogged and helps it to dry faster. Nothing worse than putting on cold wet soggy riding gear after a long day at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daboo View Post
    ... The new Olympia line uses a waterproof/windproof/breathable windbreaker like jacket that can be worn inside the jacket...or outside. I took to wearing it on the outside after the first day when it looked like we'd hit rain and it worked like a champ...
    The new gear is getting better and better. The ability to wear it on the outside just makes so much sense, keeps your gear dry.

    Quote Originally Posted by daboo View Post
    ... On that first day though, I had brought along the TourMaster rain jacket. I'm sure it was perspiration, but the inside was soaked and it's not made of a material that lets water through. It'll be the last time I use it...
    Agreed, some of the stuff out there is very poor at breathing and you end up getting wet from the inside (perspiration) which makes the product virtually useless. The only long stretches I've done with my Rev'IT in heavy rain have been in moderate temperatures (I've done short stretches in warm temps) so I've not been able test to see how "breathable" the Rev'IT is in warm temps, but it worked well in moderate ones and reports I've had of the BMW suit are equally good.

    Glad to hear the Olympia gear is doing such a great job. I've suggested it to many folks and to dealerships as a very good quality product at good price points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanColes View Post
    ... the Sena SMH5 Bluetooth Headset for $97...
    FYI, I just noticed that the Sena 3S is now $89 from Revzilla. So an even lower cost, firmware upgradeable, quality product that makes it pretty tough to look in other directions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanColes View Post
    FYI, I just noticed that the Sena 3S is now $89 from Revzilla. So an even lower cost, firmware upgradeable, quality product that makes it pretty tough to look in other directions.
    Thanks man, I almost bought it! But then I started reading reviews and started wondering about how speakers are going to fit and sound in my helmet - and long story short - I'm going to now buy a Shoei Qwest helmet, which has speaker cutouts and by all accounts is much quieter. I am returning the HJC I bought anyway as it was too small, so now will just spend an extra $200 lol. Can I blame you for that? ;-)

    Anyway, I'm may try that Sena, true, hard to beat the price! But my budget is getting blown and I haven't even hit the road yet.

    Took the bike to mechanic today and he liked it overall. Needs a new front tire and doing oil/filter change, he said oil looked pretty dirty so recommended another change fairly soon. There's a bit of a starting issue, doesn't fire right up and needs that idle lever on for a good 5-10 minutes from cold, then idles a bit low maybe. He wondered about a clogged fuel injector if I heard him right.

    Does anyone have feedback on this tankbag and whether it will fit my R1150RT? Looking at handlebars they seem close to the tank.. I'm thinking I will remove the bar risers as I have long arms anyway, and that might help push the bars forward again, but will also lower them at the same time, so not sure. Love this bags waterproof and backpack design though, even without clear map pocket, which I don't think i need.
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    I also want to say for the record that while I think I will enjoy this bike, my heart is really with the gorgeous maroon '74 R90/6 that is for sale locally. I talked myself out of it for a cross country trip as it has no fairing and no luggage, but damn I'm kind of regretting it! I used to have a '76 R90/6 and loved that bike. This one has the bigger tank I always wanted. I didn't ride it, but it started right up and sounded great. New tires, recent tune-up. $3500. I have to keep talking myself out of switching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by demet123 View Post
    I talked myself out of it for a cross country trip as it has no fairing and no luggage, but damn I'm kind of regretting it!
    Don't worry. Once you get rolling on your long trip with the new Oiler, you won't have any regrets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demet123 View Post
    Mostly plan to hammock camp, but may end up in a hotel or two if things work out that way. Have people to visit in Memphis and Boulder, CO. Anyway, I have a ton of questions I'm trying to sort out and if anyone has any input I'd love to hear it!

    DG
    Welcome back to the sport and safe travels.

    If it helps I've used a hammock tent for about 10 years and find it very convenient and comfortable. Upside is that it is compact & light weight, does away with the need for a ground roll/air mattress, and gets you off the ground and away from rain puddles, critters & insects. Downside is that you obviously need 2 trees or posts (although I have hung it when camping under the cover of a pick-nic shelter) and therefor it may not be a good choice for travelling thru the south-west. As well there is very limited storage space inside - I keep my riding gear and helmet inside but there is little room for anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinty View Post
    Don't worry. Once you get rolling on your long trip with the new Oiler, you won't have any regrets.
    I'm sure you are right!

    Quote Originally Posted by 129654 View Post
    Welcome back to the sport and safe travels.

    If it helps I've used a hammock tent for about 10 years and find it very convenient and comfortable. Upside is that it is compact & light weight, does away with the need for a ground roll/air mattress, and gets you off the ground and away from rain puddles, critters & insects. Downside is that you obviously need 2 trees or posts (although I have hung it when camping under the cover of a pick-nic shelter) and therefor it may not be a good choice for travelling thru the south-west. As well there is very limited storage space inside - I keep my riding gear and helmet inside but there is little room for anything else.
    Yeah, I camped a bunch last summer using a hammock, and rarely had trouble finding a spot to hang from ;-) I got very good at quick set-up and take down, including a tarp placed diagonally above the hammock, which kept me nicely dry in heavy rain. And my hammock has a built in bug net. I even hung one end off my car once in a pinch!

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    Just go and don't worry, a cross country motorcycle trip is something most folks only dream about. Be glad you are going and enjoy every mile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patiodadio View Post
    Just go and don't worry, a cross country motorcycle trip is something most folks only dream about. Be glad you are going and enjoy every mile.
    Good point! Gratitude is what's up.

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    Update

    Hi guys, my trip is going well, hears a quickyrecap so far:
    First day out of New Orleans, hit thunderstorms in baton rouge, where I had stopped for breakfast. Tried to wait it out, but got antsy, so donned the rain gear and rode through it, done in a hour. BMW rain suit performed well. Ditto boot covers and first gear gloves. Made it to Natchez by 1pm and caught a tour of a cool old estate house, Melrose estate. Then got on the Natchez Trace and made a few hours north to a dumpy campground.

    Next day was mostly on the Trace, and it's wonderful riding, little traffic, no lights or cross traffic, well maintained road, all greenery and nature in both sides. I'd highly recommend it!

    This is where my butt started to hurt though. Ugh, it's bad.

    Made Memphis and hung out with friends for a few days. Then made for the Ozark national Forest, ended up riding way into a camp site on a gravel road, was nervous but made it in and out ok. Beautiful camp site and I was the only one there!

    Spent the next 1/2 day riding thorough the Ozarks and that was awesome! Such lovely twisties! Then a slug up through Oklahoma to Bartlesville where I stayed at the Price Tower, designed by Frank Lloyd Wright, very cool place. Then today just 2.5 hour ride to Great Salt Plain state park. Camped on a lake, again I'm the only one here!?

    Short ride today because of my butt. It hurts. A lot. I'm going to make another post about it and seek solutions and advice.
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    update

    I've made it to the west coast, it's been a great trip. Lots of scenic riding, minimal interstate time. Colorado was beautiful, and even Nevada was pleasant. temps were down when I made my way west, actually hottest temps so far have been in California! But I haven't needed to spend much time in them, mostly on the coast. Smoke is brutal though, from numerous wildfires.

    I'm heading up to Portland today, supposedly less smoke up there. I need to do an oil change, if anyone has the time to help I'll buy you lunch. I've never done one on this bike myself and don't have a pan etc. I'm sure I can figure it out, but it would be nice to meet some PDX bimmer folks!

    PS bought a Russell all day seat in Redding, was lucky they had an etar sitting around for my bike and my size! It's a world of difference, sooo comfortable.

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