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    How about a thread/ category of threads

    With the purpose of sharing maps, navigation and GPS tracks for various on road and off-road routes in North America (Canada, USA, Mexico) and the rest of the world.

    Each thread could be a different province or state or location indicating on the road or off-road.


    And why don't we call it "mapping and navigation"
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    95 views and zero comments. No supporters then?
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    You can start the thread. It will flow, or not. You can bump it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    You can start the thread. It will flow, or not. You can bump it too.
    What does " bump it" mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelliott View Post
    What does " bump it" mean?
    Generally a "bump" in the world of threads is when the original poster/thread starter posts again to bring the thread "to the top" and re-establish it's position at the top recent posts.
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    A bump is just a post added to a thread primarily to create activity and draw attention to the thread. It usually does not add any new information. Sometimes it's a post that just says "bump". It gets annoying if done too many times or too quickly.

    So start your thread and post a few routes as examples. Maybe it would go well in the Just Ridin' section for now? I think the paper clip icon in the editor will let you attach a .gpx file if you have one.

    If others like the idea, they can contribute routes of their own.

    If the idea becomes popular the moderators can decide if the posts need to be categorized by state or region or however.

    If the idea isn't popular, the thread will just unravel and disappear.
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    I think what the OP was asking is more about if there could be a "category" set for "mapping and navigation" or something along that line. If I am reading his intent correctly it is basically asking for a Sub-Category that would contain threads pertaining to "mapping and navigation" that would have a sub-category for "Maps/Routes/Tracks".

    This would require an administrative action. It isn't about writing another post that gets shuffled into any of a dozen+ Categories and Sub-Categories to be fragmented and accessible only through the luck/whim of one's search abilities. I believe the question is about something that I have requested several times, but constantly gotten push-back on. The lack of interest could easily be that others have had the same desire in the past, as me and the OP, but run into the same inertia that I have and like me, given up trying to have the Forum evolve and improve it's usefulness.

    The idea being that posts and their threads about specific categories of discussion/interest have no home other than a general catch-all and make it extremely difficult for anyone without a good depth of knowledge of this Forum to find things relating to specific topics, even very broad and general ones like Navigation, other than by searching by specific key words and hoping that they somehow catch those that have mispelled things etc. There has been a great deal of interest about the new Nav-VI, but where does one go here to find the threads on that?

    I suggested here, before the Nav-VI was released, that there be a sub-category setup under "Gear" for Navigation with it having a Nav-VI sub-category. That would have meant that:
    1. it would have been a great "ground-zero" testing sub-category
    2. moderators would know to direct all Nav-VI post to that section rather than have to deliberate if it was in the correct category, and most important,
    3. members would have a central place to read the pertinent posts regarding the Nav-VI and those new to the Forum would be able to "navigate" with far more ease, than the current situation.

    I do a seach for "Nav-VI" or "Nav VI" in the window on the right and get 0 results!!! I search for "navigator" or "navigator VI" and get 24 pages with post/threads in virtually everyone of the dozen plus categories that cover tons of stuff that has nothing to do with the Nav-VI. If I do an advanced search for "navigator" under just "Gear" than I get 9 pages. So that means there are 2.5x+ more results outside the "Gear" category than there are in it. Yes, there are ways of narrowing this down if one knows and implements some additional search techniques, but isn't this Forum meant to be inclusive and not to be placing barriers to potential new members?
    How does anyone here think any of this is okay???

    The Forum itself has six Categories:

    • Welcome Aboard
    • The Garage
    • The Road
    • The Lighter Side
    • The Club
    • Off-Topic


    Of those six, only two are really about bikes/gear/etc.:

    • The Garage
    • The Road


    The category "The Garage" has 16 sub-categories for the overall groupings of BMW models (Airhead/Oilhead/F/G/K/etc.) plus

    • Motorrad
    • Gear
    • Links and References


    The category "The Road" has 7 sub-categories:

    • Just Ridin'
    • Off the Beaten Path
    • Commuter's Corner
    • Ride Reports
    • Women of the MOA
    • MOA Getaways and Events
    • Rally Forum


    There are no sub-categories below these IIRC.

    So, where does one place/look for/search for threads on Navigation/Mapping?

    There is only one "slightly / sort of" logical place and that would be "Gear". Unfortunately, threads on Navigation/Mapping find their way into at least a dozen+ categories and sub-categories and become lost in those (as my search identified). Those that do get placed in "Gear" find themselves amoungst 6,000+ other threads with 70,000+ posts. This leads to the proverbial needle in a haystack situation and if one wishes to search for something on the BMW Navigator V you must include that description, plus all possible variations (Nav-V, Nav V, Navigator V, etc) to have any chance of capturing most of the threads.

    I am not saying that the existing categories shouldn't be there, simply that there really should be a sub-category for Navigation/Mapping.

    Afterall, it does represent a significant component to any "Touring" motorcyclist's activity, doesn't it? There are hundreds and hundreds of threads with thousands of posts on the topic.

    How is there a sub-category for "Commuter's Corner" (which is good and I'm not saying should be removed) that has just 22 threads with a total of 884 posts. One of which is actually on riding gear and represents 4% of the total activity. Shouldn't that be in the "Gear" sub-category? Well, perhaps not, as it would get lost in there, like throwing something into the ocean.
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    How about sub dividing the Gear forum into sections focused on specific classes of gear? For example; GPSs, bike protection, clothing, luggage....... etc.
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    I have been away from the Forum since late March...life sometimes overrides being a volunteer here as a moderator

    We are discussing options, but it is the riding season and at times that gets in way of administrative tasks...not making excuses...just a reality. Let us work on this and see what is what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henzilla View Post
    I have been away from the Forum since late March...life sometimes overrides being a volunteer here as a moderator

    We are discussing options, but it is the riding season and at times that gets in way of administrative tasks...not making excuses...just a reality. Let us work on this and see what is what.
    thank you. enjoy the riding, that is important for all of us!
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