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    Quote Originally Posted by harpt58 View Post
    I have a 2018 R1200GS that I just purchased. It has the Garmin Motorrrad Navigator VI mounted from the dealer. I've noticed that if I don't ride it for awhile (1 month) the Garmin will not start up when I start the bike and I have to ride it for awhile before I can turn the bike off and on again to get the Garmin to start. Is the battery just dead on the Garmin and it needs charging? I've had other BMW's with the Garmin GPS and never had this issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by dpandorf View Post
    It’s happened to me and the Nav’s charge has run down.
    What you are dealing with is two issues:
    1. the BMW GPS Prep mount does not provide any power once the bike is turned off
      - this is to keep the GPS from draining the bike battery
    2. the BMW Navigator V and VI do not actually turn off when the power from the bike is turned off
      - it merely goes into "Sleep" Mode and continues to draw power and drain the battery, albeit at a much-reduced rate.

    The only way to actually turn off the Navigator is to remove it from the mount and hold in the On/Off button on the back until the screen ask if you want to turn it off and respond accordingly.
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    TFT and Navigator VI with Schuberth SRC

    I just purchased a F850GS and now I'm struggling to make my iPhone, TFT, BMW Navigator VI and Schuberth SRC headset work together.

    I can get the TFT features to work (phone calls, media, TFT navigation), but when I pair the Navigator VI, the TFT features do not work anymore. Any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayy_wire_007 View Post
    I just purchased a F850GS and now I'm struggling to make my iPhone, TFT, BMW Navigator VI and Schuberth SRC headset work together.

    I can get the TFT features to work (phone calls, media, TFT navigation), but when I pair the Navigator VI, the TFT features do not work anymore. Any suggestions?
    I don't have the Nav VI paired to the TFT. Seems to work ok. I found this video extremely helpful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzPoILCj-aU You have the Schuberth instead of the Sena but the order may be useful to you.
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    Traffic Warning/Nav V

    While riding up to the MOA national last month, I noticed a new icon on the screen. This icon looked like a car on a road, with a number (6.3, 20.5, etc) to the right of the car (IIRC). In researching what it meant, I discovered it was a traffic warning icon, warning me that there was heavy traffic ahead, and Garmin was adding 6.3 (or whatever) minutes to my ETA. This would give me the option of hitting "Detour" to recalculate a new route, based on the expected delay time. I had never seen this icon before, and don't know how far ahead Garmin was looking. I do know that the expected delay time would change (and the ETA), as traffic conditions changed. This icon popped up as I was nearing Manchester, where traffic was building for Bonaroo! When I turned toward Lebanon (from Manchester), the icon dropped off, the ETA dropped back to expected time, and I haven't seen the icon sense. While I have the SmartLink App, I haven't paid for any features, and I don't think I had my 'phone linked to my GPS w/Bluetooth, anyway.

    Anyone out there have any more info on the "Heavy traffic" warning on the NAV V (and probably on the NAV VI, too)? Like, how far ahead does Garmin look for traffic? And was this a new addition from a recent update?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgoertz View Post
    While riding up to the MOA national last month, I noticed a new icon on the screen. This icon looked like a car on a road, with a number (6.3, 20.5, etc) to the right of the car (IIRC). In researching what it meant, I discovered it was a traffic warning icon, warning me that there was heavy traffic ahead, and Garmin was adding 6.3 (or whatever) minutes to my ETA. This would give me the option of hitting "Detour" to recalculate a new route, based on the expected delay time. I had never seen this icon before, and don't know how far ahead Garmin was looking. I do know that the expected delay time would change (and the ETA), as traffic conditions changed. This icon popped up as I was nearing Manchester, where traffic was building for Bonaroo! When I turned toward Lebanon (from Manchester), the icon dropped off, the ETA dropped back to expected time, and I haven't seen the icon sense. While I have the SmartLink App, I haven't paid for any features, and I don't think I had my 'phone linked to my GPS w/Bluetooth, anyway.

    Anyone out there have any more info on the "Heavy traffic" warning on the NAV V (and probably on the NAV VI, too)? Like, how far ahead does Garmin look for traffic? And was this a new addition from a recent update?
    My Nav V did this several times on our trip to the National while on back roads.
    It was always fake news.
    Two times the suggested new route was down a goat path.
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    Thanks for the update
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    Upgrading Bike and Equipment

    My ’07 K1200GT with a similar vintage Garmin unit is soon to transformed into an R1250RT with a BMW Navigator VI. My old Garmin unit has XM radio built into it so pairing with my Sena is easy. I understand that the BNVI does not have XM built in. I understand that I can stream music via my iPhone. Here’s the question: can I simply launch the XM app on the iPhone and stream via BNVI to Sena?

    Thanks for your help.
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    I don't have XM but I have opened my Amazon Music and Pandora apps on my iphone and listened to music through my Sena with no problems. I can't imagine the XM app would be any different.

    I bluetooth my iphone directly to my Sena. I don't go through the Nav VI.
    I also bluetooth my Nav VI directly to my Sena.
    You can run both units at the same time though the Sena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanColes View Post
    What you are dealing with is two issues:
    1. the BMW GPS Prep mount does not provide any power once the bike is turned off
      - this is to keep the GPS from draining the bike battery
    2. the BMW Navigator V and VI do not actually turn off when the power from the bike is turned off
      - it merely goes into "Sleep" Mode and continues to draw power and drain the battery, albeit at a much-reduced rate.

    The only way to actually turn off the Navigator is to remove it from the mount and hold in the On/Off button on the back until the screen ask if you want to turn it off and respond accordingly.
    I wonder if they fixed this in a recent update because mine used to work like this, but now it seems to truly shut off as my Nav vi battery has lasted weeks after a ride.
    I do always plug my bike in to the battery tender, and perhaps the canbus manages sending power to the unit, but I haven't taken the time to figure that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by droveto View Post
    I wonder if they fixed this in a recent update because mine used to work like this, but now it seems to truly shut off as my Nav vi battery has lasted weeks after a ride.
    I do always plug my bike in to the battery tender, and perhaps the canbus manages sending power to the unit, but I haven't taken the time to figure that out.
    The battery will last for a very long time in "Sleep" mode.
    The way to identify if it has really been turned off is to pay attention to the first screen that appears when transitioning from a blank/black screen to the home screen that has the "Where To?" and "View Map" icons.
    If pressing the power button on the back of the GPS takes you directly there, or to some screen below that opening screen, then the unit was merely in "Sleep" mode.

    If, however, pressing the power button initially displays the start up screen which begins with "BMW Motorrad" and then should show copyright info, etc., then the GPS was truly turned off.

    Having said that, anecdotally at least, it does appear that these units do lose battery power even when turned completely off.

    The only time I have seen a Nav-V or Nav-VI turn off without having to hold the power button until the "Turn off the device" screen pops up and then tap the "Off" icon has been on malfunctioning units.

    This is not to be confused with the "Turn off? Stay on" screen that displays when you turn off the ignition with the unit in the mount. That, as mentioned a while ago, only puts the GPS into "Sleep" mode. I've had newer Nav units hold good battery strength for over a month, IIRC, in Sleep mode. I've also had units, that I could swear I turned completely off, have their batteries go dead after a few months.

    As for power through the CAN bus, while there is a lag of a few seconds between turning off the ignition and the power being terminated to certain areas, my experience has always been (including with my 2019 R1250RT) that the power is cut to the OE GPS holder at the time the ignition is turned off.

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