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    Headlight Pro

    Question for those familiar with headlight pro on the RT.

    Can you confirm that the LED lights surrounding the high beams can be run both in conjunction with the low beam and seperate as stand alone daytime running lights? If so what is your opinion on which combination provides the best conspicuity to oncoming traffic during the day.

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    On my '16 RT the LEDs come on with the key at on and the headlight comes on after engine start.
    All three stay on until engine shut-off.

    I've installed LED lamps at engine level for conspicuity.
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    My 2014 works the same, (good for visibility).

    I picked up a pair of Darla lights with the BMW Auxillary Light brackets to add conspicuity and provide a bit more night-time lighting.
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    I think the U.S. has required an always-on headlight for motorcycles since about 1980. I'm not sure if the LED rings would satisfy that requirement on their own. LEDs near or surrounding the main light may add a little brightness, but appear as a single bright spot, and do little to help oncoming traffic estimate their distance. Individual lights placed with a clear separation appear to spread apart as you get closer, making it easier for others to judge closing speed. The greater the separation the better, so most conspicuity lights end up low and/or wide, on the lower forks, on engine guards, and at the fairing edges.

    I'm not sure I've seen the LED rings in operation on an RT. I have seen them on a K1600 heading the other direction and was very un-impressed. I found them hard to see, and I was looking for them.

    Edit: I found this pic of an RT, with low beam off, parked in a shadow. Looks similar to the K1600 I've seen. I would not rely on these LED rings for conspicuity. They are simply not bright enough to be seen in sunlight, especially from an angle. I'm really not sure what they are for, except to add a little style, or to serve as a parking light.
    2014-BMW-R1200RT.jpg

    Another, rings barely brighter than the unlit turn signal:
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    Last edited by lkraus; 03-15-2017 at 09:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkraus View Post
    I think the U.S. has required an always-on headlight for motorcycles since about 1980. I'm not sure if the LED rings would satisfy that requirement on their own.
    2014-BMW-R1200RT.jpg
    The headlight on requirement is not universal in the United States. That requirement is left to the individual states, and of course they do not all agree... (just like helmets)


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanColes View Post
    My 2014 works the same, (good for visibility).

    I picked up a pair of Darla lights with the BMW Auxillary Light brackets to add conspicuity and provide a bit more night-time lighting.
    Picked up? Hand delivered I think

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    Well, I guess that is more accurate Marc, and thank you for that. ;-)

    BTW, I had a great ride after we parted ways in Troy. Rode Route-7 through Green Mountain, then took Route-4 across to Route-3 up through White Mountain and then Route-2 into Bangor. Doing the secondary roads meant that it was a full days ride, but great roads for the RT. Liked it so much that I retraced some of it in July when I rode the RT to Das Rally.
    Regards, Alan - President BMWONS - MOA Charter Club #097, BMWMOA/BMWRA/BMWONS/Airheads
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    I was just told that the headlamp pro is a directional, “adaptive “ headlamp. Is it true or have I been misinformed?
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    To my knowledge only the K1600 series has the adaptive xenon light.

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    So what’s the deal with headlamp pro?
    Quote Originally Posted by cruisincruzan View Post
    To my knowledge only the K1600 series has the adaptive xenon light.
    It's a tough job but somebody's gotta do it.

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    "The Headlight Pro highlights the R 1200 RT modern design with a distinctive BMW look featuring LED corona rings surrounding the high beam projectors."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkpilot View Post
    The headlight on requirement is not universal in the United States.
    I took for granted it was a Federal law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I took for granted it was a Federal law.
    I think the "headlight on" rule applies in so many states that the manufacturers build just one version for the U.S. It's been 35+ years since I've seen a new bike with a headlight "off" switch.
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    I am fairly certain that it is a requirement in any state which receives any Federal Highway funds. Like the old Federal mandate on helmets - since repealed.
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    As illogical as it may seem, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration does not require Daytime Running Lights. For years there was a push by GM and others to have them required; however, in June of 2009 NHTSA denied the request. See
    https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...ated-equipment In denying the request NHTSA said..."the agency remains neutral with respect to a policy regarding the inclusion of DRLs in vehicles."

    Another article on the subject can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp.

    As a result states have came up with a hodgepodge list of rules some requiring the use of daytime headlamps, or DRLs if your car or motorcycle has them. For Motorcycles see https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/motorcycle-equipment/


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    Last edited by easy; 02-18-2018 at 06:54 PM. Reason: Incorrect cite.

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