pglaves
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Damn, that's a lot of hardware you got there.
He might have a lot of fun in airports.
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Damn, that's a lot of hardware you got there.
He might have a lot of fun in airports.
Paul - I can tell you that with a titanium hip joint, it only slows me down a little in airports. I just tell the TSA what I've got, go into the big scanner, and I'm on my way. It's no big deal.
Ah, but that was the old TSA.
Jeff, did I miss how much you weigh?.
Searched the interwebs and downloaded and skimmed the rt manual. Mr. Google found plenty of references to older models with sidestand killswitch issues, but i didn't see anything regarding the stand itself or the attaching tab failing. I didn't see anything in the manual advising to not mounting via peg.
Jeff - Page 97 of the 2015 RT rider's manual says: "The side stand is designed to support only the weight of the motorcycle. Do not lean or sit on the motorcycle with the side stand extended."
That said, I mount the bike using the left peg all the time when touring. Chancing fate, I guess...
My manual, for the 2011 RT, says that same thing. I choose not to "chance fate," having had a friend who wound up on the ground from the practice of standing on the left foot peg to mount. He's lucky he rolled clear before the bike fell on him.
What bike and what broke or gave way?
The problem is also got one huge variable... is the person using the peg to step over built like an NFL lineman or a marathon runner??? One could certainly be a problem, the other not even close.
They don't say, "If you're a real skinny guy, it's OK."The side stand is designed to support only the weight of the motorcycle. Do not lean or sit on the motorcycle with the side stand extended. [Emphasis is mine]
I'll disagree with the assessment that a lighter rider is "not even close." At least two manuals for the RT say this, They don't say, "If you're a real skinny guy, it's OK."
Lots of people are doing it and getting away with it. A small number will have the failure. A smaller number may even be injured. As the saying goes, 'You have been warned.' I doubt that this conversation will change anyone's mind or what they do.
Jeff - Page 97 of the 2015 RT rider's manual says: "The side stand is designed to support only the weight of the motorcycle. Do not lean or sit on the motorcycle with the side stand extended."
That said, I mount the bike using the left peg all the time when touring. Chancing fate, I guess...
One of our motor officers, riding a BMW, always mounted on the left side of the bike by standing on the left peg with the side stand down. One day, as he mounted, something gave way. The bike fell down on its left side, dumping him on the ground. He escaped, with only his ego bruised.
I don't recall (if he ever told me) what broke or bent, whether it was a tab, a bolt that sheared, or something else. But I've stopped mounting that way. The center stand is strong enough for this, I'm told, but the side stand is not.
There are many who mount like this, who have never had such an experience, and who will continue. I prefer to learn from the experience of others.
. It also says to not sit or lean on the vehicle when it's on the centerstand.
I just found the same thing on a different page of the 2016 manual I downloaded - it's in the "dismounting" section, but it says to not do it because of risk of damage to parts if the vehicle topples and not due to sidestand failure. It also says to not sit or lean on the vehicle when it's on the centerstand.
Additional weight placing strain on the side stand.
Risk of damage to parts if vehicle topples. Do not sit or lean on the vehicle while it is propped on the side stand. [Emphasis Original]
Special notes and precautionary measures. Non-compliance can lead to damage to the vehicle or accessory and, consequently, to voiding of the warranty. [Emphasis is mine]