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    1994 R1100RS final drive pivot bearing replacement

    Is there another source for the final drive pivot bearing besides BMW? Also any hints on replacing them?

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    Some discussion on the subject...and an option

    http://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread....aralever+pivot
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    Sadly no, FAG has an exclusive supply agreement with BMW.

    Just replaced another a set yesterday, $115cad each from BMW dealer.

    Robbery pure and simple for a poor design.

    Make sure you preload correctly for maximum life (7nm) with a known accurate torque wrench.

    Just a heads up.... the Nylatron aftermarket bushings don't even last as long as the bearing. I have an associate that has gone thru 2 sets and gave up.
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    Those bearings are a bad design in my opinion.

    I would try the "Nushings" rather than going with the originals: http://advrider.com/index.php?thread...150gsa.1116193 I have a set in my emergency FD kit ready to go but haven't installed them yet. The design has gone through a few changes based on user feedback and seem to be the best solution.

    You can also go with the Rubber Chicken bushings. http://rubberchickenracinggarage.com/bushings.html They are Oilite bronze. Rubberchicken recommends lubing with Honda Moly but I think that is a bad idea - just leave them alone - that's the whole point of Oilite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Canoehead View Post
    Those bearings are a bad design in my opinion.

    I would try the "Nushings" rather than going with the originals: http://advrider.com/index.php?thread...150gsa.1116193 I have a set in my emergency FD kit ready to go but haven't installed them yet. The design has gone through a few changes based on user feedback and seem to be the best solution.

    You can also go with the Rubber Chicken bushings. http://rubberchickenracinggarage.com/bushings.html They are Oilite bronze. Rubberchicken recommends lubing with Honda Moly but I think that is a bad idea - just leave them alone - that's the whole point of Oilite.
    See my comments on the "Nushings"

    From my experience the stock bearings are still the best of the 3 and that is not great. The slightly larger ones on the transmission side never have issues. BMW should have used those although the casting would have needed to be a bit chunkier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GSAddict View Post
    See my comments on the "Nushings"

    From my experience the stock bearings are still the best of the 3 and that is not great. The slightly larger ones on the transmission side never have issues. BMW should have used those although the casting would have needed to be a bit chunkier.
    If you very carefully pack them full of silicone grease, not silicone dielectric grease, silicone lube grease, no air anywhere they seem to last a lot better. If you can reach in after install before setting boot and pack the gap around them full of more grease then better.

    Never ever use moly on oilite bushings. It plugs the pores.

    Soak in motor oil if you want. I think a few days in Mobil 1 5W30 is good.

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    Saw these the other day as another option. Anyone have input?

    For 1150

    http://www.beemershop.com/Merchant5/..._Code=TRA11094

    For 1100

    http://www.beemershop.com/Merchant5/..._Code=TRA11093
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    There was a thread in ADV a while back on those.
    They were pretty new then. No feed back IIRC.
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    I have the bronze oilite bushings in my R1150R and Voni's R1100 RS. They work fine when properly installed and lubricated. There was an early issue with the interference fit but that has been corrected.
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    Bump...

    Well, H said her 1150R was smelling like gear lube last week So, since was due for a 12K put'r on the lift. Was thinking tranny output seal with where dusty trails of lube were...somewhat happier it's just the pinion seal and lube was migrating forward...paralever dry inside, strut and bottom of p-lever dirty...off to work.

    I had a set of the brass bushings that Paul mentioned...older set that were a challenge to remove this time...have them in other bikes and first time this was an issue.
    Decided to try OEM again, but now going with some of the Ei brand from BeemerShop after Denise at Bentonville said the OEM's are now $93 EACH ....
    Self destroying needle bearing set for $200...wow. Thought I paid way less the last time.

    I sold a set to a friend a little bit back I had for some time...he may owe me a few tacos after this

    The Ei's come as a set with greasable pins w/removeable zerks . Ted said all positive feedback on early users...so I'm in.

    http://www.beemershop.com/Merchant5/..._Code=TRA11094

    Also available for other models .
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    Quote Originally Posted by henzilla View Post
    Bump...



    The Ei's come as a set with greasable pins w/removeable zerks . Ted said all positive feedback on early users...so I'm in.

    http://www.beemershop.com/Merchant5/..._Code=TRA11094

    Also available for other models .
    Please keep us posted on your experience with those.
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    My 2004 K1200LT has the same final drive pivot bearings. The bearings have over 190,000 miles on them. Do they have the notches in the bearing races yes. Do I care no. I remove them now & then to clean & re grease them. I buff the races with white rouge buffing compound on a buffing wheel in both directions. I reinstall them with new grease. The outside race wears more than the inside race so I swap them each time. When I set the preload I move the final drive up & down while I torque it to 62 inch pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saddleman View Post
    My 2004 K1200LT has the same final drive pivot bearings. The bearings have over 190,000 miles on them. Do they have the notches in the bearing races yes. Do I care no. I remove them now & then to clean & re grease them. I buff the races with white rouge buffing compound on a buffing wheel in both directions. I reinstall them with new grease. The outside race wears more than the inside race so I swap them each time. When I set the preload I move the final drive up & down while I torque it to 62 inch pounds.
    Same as what? The Emerald Isle bearing offered by Ted Porter or the OEM ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by happy wanderer View Post
    Same as what? The Emerald Isle bearing offered by Ted Porter or the OEM ones?
    BILLK75 the original poster has a 1994 R1100RS & it uses the same final drive pivot bearings as my K1200LT. I still have the OEM bearings that came on the bike from BMW.
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