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    Quote Originally Posted by GSAddict View Post
    Please keep us posted on your experience with those.
    Got a set of Ei's delivered Friday. Look pretty good Installed them earlier, but haven't torqued the adjustable pin yet as the dinner hour was close and called it a day

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    And for those who have been lucky with long lived OEM's , great...Even on bikes that have never been serviced, seems I have needle bearings falling out and cages worn, especially on GS's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henzilla View Post
    Got a set of Ei's delivered Friday. Look pretty good Installed them earlier, but haven't torqued the adjustable pin yet as the dinner hour was close and called it a day

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    And for those who have been lucky with long lived OEM's , great...Even on bikes that have never been serviced, seems I have needle bearings falling out and cages worn, especially on GS's.
    Cool, did they come with instructions for install/torque/lube type&interval?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GSAddict View Post
    Cool, did they come with instructions for install/torque/lube type&interval?
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    They did not. Part of the reason I stopped until I talk to Ted. I spent a few minutes with him on the phone the other day, but didn't ask a lot, assuming the kit would include some info.
    The race cups popped in real easy after I set them in the freezer and heated the housing a bit. I fiddled with the adjustable pin loading a bit while wiggling the FD, but wanted to be sure of torque settings before I locked it down since the pin can bottom out in that race cup.

    Will follow up Tuesday, he may be in the shop on Monday, seems I have reached him on Mondays before.
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    The answer I got, which I pretty much figured out just looking at the design, is to take slack out and tighten down.

    Since they are not needle bearings in a tapered cage, the chance of over torquing is not the same concern.
    Any typical bearing grease also fine. I will shoot some every 12K service and see how things go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henzilla View Post
    The answer I got, which I pretty much figured out just looking at the design, is to take slack out and tighten down.

    Since they are not needle bearings in a tapered cage, the chance of over torquing is not the same concern.
    Any typical bearing grease also fine. I will shoot some every 12K service and see how things go.
    Keep us posted please!
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    Phone Ted Porter at The Beemer Shop --- get the Emerald Isle Paralever Pivot bearings/bushings. I've installed them in my 1999 R1100S and my 1995 R100GS-PD with very good results. Have tried the Bronze Oillite Bushings, but found them to become galled and useless in less than 10,000 miles. The Ei bearings also have a zerk fitting so the bearing can be re-lubed without removing the Final Drive unit.

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    Does anyone have any comments/experience with Chris Harris's torque for the OEM inside paralever bearing (10-12 ft lb)??

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    I don't set mine to a torque, but rather for the absolute minimum detectable CLEARANCE in the bearing. I use my fingertip across the bearing to measure the clearance. I feel it is too easy to get the bearings preloaded excessively as the jam nut is tightened. Tapered roller bearings can't resist much axial preload force - especially when the taper angle is as shallow as these bearings are.
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    Steve.......do you have an update on the EI Bushing installation you performed earlier this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrpetersen View Post
    I don't set mine to a torque, but rather for the absolute minimum detectable CLEARANCE in the bearing. I use my fingertip across the bearing to measure the clearance. I feel it is too easy to get the bearings preloaded excessively as the jam nut is tightened. Tapered roller bearings can't resist much axial preload force - especially when the taper angle is as shallow as these bearings are.
    As a matter of technique I apply medium strength (blue) thread locker to the pivot pin threads and allow it to cure for about 30 minutes. Then I tighten the lock nut without thread locker. I paint spot the pin so any rotation can be detected. Using this procedure the pin does not turn when tightening the lock nut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snookers View Post
    Steve.......do you have an update on the EI Bushing installation you performed earlier this year?

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    First I need to remember which bike I put those on

    ( just looked down page to see it was H's 1150...many miles since and all seems snug and fine)
    Just recall effortless install
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    Good looking stuff. I've gotta '94 R1100RS. Been sitting neglected for some years. I've gotta a lotta work ahead of me to bring it back. Those bearing/bushing upgrades may be a part of upgrade process. Thx guys.

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    Thanks for the reply Steve
    I have a set of these bushings for my 1100 RT and will be installing them this winter as part of my off season maintenance regime. I did have a set of the bushings from Rubber Chicken Racing and they lasted about 50K before they started to show wear so Iím looking forward to trying these

    And Paul, thatís a great idea with waiting 30 minutes or so with the blue loctite. I may try that as well
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