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    Quote Originally Posted by ksb245 View Post
    Asked my dealer to order me an additional key. He came up with the plastic key for $60! I gave him the stock number from above; he had never heard of it. He of course needed my VIN, registration and license in order to order. When I got the new key it was cut wrong (how can that happen given the VIN?). He says he is looking into the problem, but no response in 2 weeks even after my calls. I sent him pictures to compare cuts, and I finally sent the wrong key back for reorder or refund. Still waiting!
    I'm afraid you have a lazy dealer...

    Kinda went through the same thing - the plastic key came from BMW with a bad cut (OK on one side but the other was trash - would not fit at all).

    Then ran the stock number from above (it was news to them, but at least they were able to process order) - had the hard key within a week, and refund from the dealer for the bad plastic key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksb245 View Post
    Asked my dealer to order me an additional key. He came up with the plastic key for $60! I gave him the stock number from above; he had never heard of it. He of course needed my VIN, registration and license in order to order. When I got the new key it was cut wrong (how can that happen given the VIN?). He says he is looking into the problem, but no response in 2 weeks even after my calls. I sent him pictures to compare cuts, and I finally sent the wrong key back for reorder or refund. Still waiting!
    FINALLY received my re-ordered key and it works No explanation for why the first one didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RYD1WD View Post
    The blade does have some wiggle in the fob, but I have yet to see one actually break. Central locking and alarm are essentially one in the same from a configuration perspective, they can only be ordered from the factory together - not just one or the other. IIRC, any key for a NA unit can be cut at the central NA distribution center in NJ, but that may have changed.
    I know this thread is a bit old, but I just wanted to chime in and let you know I just broke my key yesterday....2016 R1200RT and I've only had it for about 3 weeks. At the advice of the thread, I had ordered spare hard keys when I got the bike...but I haven't picked them up. The break was my fault, but it was easy to do. I was attaching my phone in the right side storage pouch on to the USB plug to charge, and wasn't paying enough attention I guess. I turned the handlebars to put the bike up on it's center stand before I removed the key from the lock and the key bent right where it connects to silver part of the fob that flips out. I'm trying to JB weld it back on but I don't have high hopes!

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    I am waiting for the first critter who invents a way to get rid of this flocking keyless fob, and put me back a couple of regressive tech years into a a key-in-my-hand to start my bike...and open the gas tank...and lock bags.

    I say NO to keyless gadgetry. That is like a stupid modern tech idea.


    Further rant: how lazy can we get? I mean, you have to push the daaamn button with your finger, how far is that from inserting a key? and what about the paranoia of not knowing if the keyless will work, or the batt on the fob punks out while you are in the middle of nowhere. Is my getting out of the bear country before sundown gonna be dependent on that little black-magic plastic key?

    Just another piece to complicate the puzzle of a motorcycle and chance function by giving control to a computer.

    No thank you, I rather have a key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mopo View Post
    I say NO to keyless gadgetry. That is like a stupid modern tech idea.

    No thank you, I rather have a key.
    I am finding that many cars now are going for this as well. You know how it is, its easy to impress consumers with such fool proof (I am being sarcastic) gadgetry.

    I purposely ordered my new R1200 GS Adventure without that option. In fact, I'd sooner not have a chipped key. More crap to go wrong as it has in the past from what I've read.

    Quote Originally Posted by mopo View Post
    Further rant: how lazy can we get?
    In our obese society, we could use every bit of calorie burning exercise. lol

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    I kind of miss the keyless I had on my RT - just sewed a lanyard into my riding pants and knew that when I geared up I had the key. Helps enforce ATGATT too! Was not a fan of BMW's solution to a dead fob battery though - remove the right speaker, stick your arm through the hole and hold the key behind the gage cluster (or use the plastic key). GS has a proximity sensor under the passenger seat, maybe you can get close enough from underneath so you don't have to remove the seat (and unstrap everything you've lashed to it...). K1600 has its sensor by the fuel filler. Why not pick ONE easily accessible place that's the same for every bike?

    I think the chipped key is a mature technology and am not worried about it. I understand that when BMW Motorrad first introduced them they were so troublesome that some folks carried spare ring antennas for when it crapped out but haven't heard of that for a long time, apparently they learned how to make the antennas right. Cars have had chips for a long time and they work fine.

    Globalrider - IIRC the gas cap on the keyless bikes doesn't have a key slot. That actually caused me more grief than the ignition, at least until I learned to keep my fob and cellphone away from each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wbrownell9 View Post
    Globalrider - IIRC the gas cap on the keyless bikes doesn't have a key slot. That actually caused me more grief than the ignition, at least until I learned to keep my fob and cellphone away from each other.
    I take it the keyless activates a solenoid that unlatches the gas cap. If that is the case, its just another system to go wrong which is why I passed on that option.

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    I thought this was a great idea the first time I had to lock the box. As i commute, i cycle all three locks 2-4 times a day. $38 for me......(crickets)......it's done and it works well.


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    I got my present RT while I was on the road. Trade my previous GT on the fly while passing through OR.

    Right while I was there buying, some dude bought the last 'key' RT and I ended up with a 'keyless'. Missed by minutes. Then again, mine don't have a radio. I hate a radio on a bike. Its hard to find radio-less RT/s nowadays...in America anyways.

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