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    I have gone 300 miles a couple of times, and still had something like a gallon left. My overall average according to the bike computer is around 53mpg... less when doing interstates and more when riding secondary roads at 55 to 65 mph, which is most of the time. I will usually refuel at the 250 mile mark (or less). I don't want to push my luck... mileage is slightly better in warmer weather.
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    BMARC What month do you plan to do your CC ride and what states do you think you'll pass through, or is that undecided at this point.
    Good luck with the ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    BMARC What month do you plan to do your CC ride and what states do you think you'll pass through, or is that undecided at this point.
    Good luck with the ride.
    Going September 9th. Route out will be from Brooklyn NY to Golden Gate bridge this is the hard way route. Taking 80 basically the entire way so passing through PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, NE, CO, WY UT AND NV.

    Taking time to get home so heading north to WA before going east and may jump into Canada to stay north of the lakes before dropping south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMARC153920 View Post
    Going September 9th. Route out will be from Brooklyn NY to Golden Gate bridge this is the hard way route. Taking 80 basically the entire way so passing through PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, NE, CO, WY UT AND NV.

    Taking time to get home so heading north to WA before going east and may jump into Canada to stay north of the lakes before dropping south.

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    Don't be surprised if you get bogged down in the Gary, Chicago area.
    If you need a BMW shop while in the Midwest there's a shop in Iowa City and the west side of Omaha.
    I live 30 miles south of I-80. I'll PM you my cell and email in case you need anything while you pass through.
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    There a few areas of concern, around Ohio I know there's construction, near Chicago, Reno and a few areas in Indiana. I'm hoping to hit some of these places during off hours and since it's a weekend no rush traffic. The main concern is Friday, we leave at 4 am, so morning rush we shod be away from major areas, but evening rush might put us near Chicago which might be an issue. I'm mapping now to see how it plays out.

    Regretfully it is a group start event, so the start time and location I can't change, otherwise I would.

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    I'm close to Gary's number--I figure 320-340 on my 2014. I think the furthest I've pushed it was 35 miles left on the computer. At that point I gave up my commitment to only using national brand gas and filled it with brand X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMARC153920 View Post
    I've never gotten that fuel economy and yeah in use CC a lot on long trips. As Lee said once I'm in Ohio and west I'll be running at 75 to 85 mph from tank to tank.
    The point of this thread isn't to debate when to get fuel, but when you need to ride 2900 miles in under 50 hours you want to stop as little as possible and make the most of those stops. Knowing I can safely stretch to 250 or 275 miles per tank over the span of the ride eliminates precocious time wasted needlessly that could be used for longer rest stops when compared to stopping every 225 miles.

    On my run to Moonshine in April I may try keeping the bike higher in the rpm range and I may also try riding without the top case to see if it makes a significant difference in economy.

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    There are a few variables that may be in my favor:
    1. I have the 28L top case which fits into the slip stream much better than the 49L, especially in dirty air. It's also almost never on my bike while riding one up, even touring.
    2. I run a Cee Baily small sport screen, and keep it low, well below eye line.

    I tested gear selection and affect of CC on a quiet 14 mile stretch of road where I always had room to experiment early on weekend mornings. The road had some very moderate elevation change, but both ends were almost identical elevation. Laps on that playing with different variables - gear/speed/rpm, and w/ and w/o CC gave me pretty clear and repetitive data. I've had consistent enough results with the trip computer vs manual calculations, that it's quite useful for measuring variables in context for shorter range experimentation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMARC153920 View Post
    I've done some long rides on my RT, but always I stopped around 225 miles for fuel with the bike usually taking 5 to 5.5 gallons if I fill to the brim. This summer I will attempt a 50cc gold and tank range rather tank range I can trust is important for planning and execute this ride. I'd like to plan for 250 mile fuel stops with reserve available if possible.

    Based on the above and my own experience I get about 40 to 45 mpg (my onboard generally says 43 mpg) so my question, does the bike really have a usable 6.6 gallons?

    I've read conflicting reports of having g a 6.6 with an additional 1.3 gallonss of reserve for a total of 7.9 to 5.3 with one gallon reserve and others.
    IMIHO, the range you are getting now won't be much of a factor in your effective range when you are doing your planned ride, which is one of the more extreme rides within the IBA catalog. There are a variety of reasons why this is so, a few would include nearly all interstate travel, near-continuous operation of the bike, and wind/weather/distance as factors west of the Mississippi. In the east you are never much more than a stone's throw from fuel, so you can play with running your tank to it's maximum range. Out west, distances between stations can be much greater so your stops will be determined as much by availability as range. Add to that the fact that you will be "on the clock" and being mindful of lost time and efficiency due to fuel stops. Fewer and faster fuel stops increase efficiency, which is what this ride is all about, so you'll be wanting to stay as close as possible to what many consider a gold standard for fuel stops on an endurance ride-- 8 or 9 minutes from first touching the exit ramp to being completely fueled and again touching the interstate roadway. That means you'll want your fuel stops at stations that are easily accessible--as in able to hit them with a rock from the freeway-- and not typically crowded. Out west, those factors somewhat narrow down your choices of optimal fuel locations. And, you can't trust your GPS, no matter how current the maps, to reliably know when and where gas is available.

    Were I you, I'd focus less on your stock range and think about adding a fuel cell for the ride. Doesn't need to be large; out west a reliable 400-mile range regardless of wind or weather will do nicely. Fuel cells are not difficult to do on the RTs, and periodically pop up in the used market so expense can be contained--and the unit would be remarketable should you not be planning any further endurance rides. Ready-made cell packages are available from some vendors, www.maplefarkles.com being an example of one (no vested interest on my part). I'd be spending time in Google Earth and other resources, checking location and accessibility of potential fueling stops at various range intervals. And, I'd be getting the ergos absolutely right and tested through numerous long practice rides. Just my $0.02 worth.

    Good luck on the ride, I wish I was doing that ride but not in the schedule card for me this year. I hope you are successful!

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    Thanks for the insight GT, very helpful. I've done a few ss1k and BBGs in the past so your thoughts ring very true to me. I've considered and started researching a fuel cell, not sure the cost is in the cards, but will be part of my research and planning. I know for some this ride seems way in tithes future but honestly it takes a lot of time to properly plan and prepare the bike, body and mind for such a ride imho.

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    I recently went on a trip through Death Valley and we had an unscheduled turnaround due to a road closure. My buddy on his Wing was rightfully concerned and we both thought we had much farther to go for fuel than we ended up having to.

    When we turned around, I was 240 miles into my tank, and for the first time, I checked my miles remaining.

    97 according to the computer.

    In the end, fuel was found, and my predicted range was around 340 miles to empty.

    Again I say "around" because I didn't go to empty, and I only loosely followed it.

    Still, it would appear to me that I have about a 340 mile range before running dry.

    For me that is damn impressive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JIGGIN View Post
    The tank on the newer RTs is 6.2 gal.. I typically can go 275 miles road or town. Keeping at 55 mph (no fun) , I have gotten to 300 miles. I figure overall I am getting 48mpg.
    I like to think my 2014 RT is FUN not matter how fast... or slow I go

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMARC153920 View Post
    Going September 9th. Route out will be from Brooklyn NY to Golden Gate bridge this is the hard way route. Taking 80 basically the entire way so passing through PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, NE, CO, WY UT AND NV.

    Taking time to get home so heading north to WA before going east and may jump into Canada to stay north of the lakes before dropping south.

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    It is the hard way. If you started in Jacksonville, FL and ride to San Diego it would be 2368 miles. Your 50cc would be a lot more relaxed. You still have to ride there from home, but that is not on the clock. Just a thought. The longer route gives less extra time for R&R, eating, fueling, and dealing with any roadside problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by royaltyl View Post
    It is the hard way. If you started in Jacksonville, FL and ride to San Diego it would be 2368 miles. Your 50cc would be a lot more relaxed. You still have to ride there from home, but that is not on the clock. Just a thought. The longer route gives less extra time for R&R, eating, fueling, and dealing with any roadside problem.
    It is the hard way.

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    50CC Gas Milage on a 2014 RT

    I completed the 50CC last year on a 2014 RT running the West to East route on I8 and I10. The RT averaged 41.6 mpg with the lowest mpg between San Diego and Dateland, AZ at 38.8 mpg and the highest of 45.3 mpg in Florida. My average milage on a tank was 234, with a max of 261. The most fuel that I put in the tank was 6.18 gallons in Junction, TX. My range was much lower than I expected and totally blew my planned gas stops. With limited interstate riding experience on this bike, I failed to account for head winds, 80 mph speed limits, climbing mountains and California gasoline. As others have said, this is a pretty big deal west of San Antonio, with gas stations often few and far between, and not at all a problem in the eastern states as there seems to be gas stations every few miles. While fuel cells are generally a great idea for extended LD riding, beware that the 50CC rules call for stopping every 350 miles. The 50CC is a fantastic ride, I wish you the best of luck and hope you have a great time.

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    Thanks for this. At this moment I am going to plan for fuel stops every 225 to 250 miles. I am going to run some tests to see if removing the top case has any positive effect on fuel economy and if so by how much.

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