# Thread: What is long distance?

1. ## What is long distance?

Just finished reading a Panjo ad, now wondering what the term "long distance travel" (annual mileage) means. Ad suggests "cross country" riding with multi 600 mile days, yet bike has had only 29,000 miles put on it in 8 1/2 years (3,400 mile annual average). What stats are there on average annual mileage for registered bikes in US? For BMW bikes in US?

2. The MOA has an annual mileage contest. From a quickly diminishing memory, the average rider who enters the contest rides around 9000 miles in the 6 months of the contest. On the one hand, the number may be skewed high because it includes only BMW riders and only those who choose to compete in the contest. On the other hand, the number may be skewed low because it includes only mileage ridden in the six best riding months and excludes miles ridden by folks in the more gentle climes in the other six months. In any case, riding less than 4000 miles a year is Harleysque in nature, meaning low.

3. Interesting question. I don't think long distance can be statistically defined. Average riding distances I think can be defined.

I had a science teacher in high school tell me once, "there's no such thing as cold... Only lack of heat."

4. Originally Posted by rangerreece
Interesting question. I don't think long distance can be statistically defined. Average riding distances I think can be defined.

I had a science teacher in high school tell me once, "there's no such thing as cold... Only lack of heat."
Ah, so there is no such thing as long ... only a lack of short???

Fifteen or so years ago when I was MOA President I had gathered some seemingly decent statistics. The average MOA member was riding about 9,000 miles a year. The average AMA member was riding about 3,000 miles a year. And - a pretty fuzzy statistic about the average motorcycle rider in the U.S. riding about 1,800 miles a year.

I suspect those statistics remain relevent if not exact, today.

5. Originally Posted by PGlaves
Ah, so there is no such thing as long ... only a lack of short???

Fifteen or so years ago when I was MOA President I had gathered some seemingly decent statistics. The average MOA member was riding about 9,000 miles a year. The average AMA member was riding about 3,000 miles a year. And - a pretty fuzzy statistic about the average motorcycle rider in the U.S. riding about 1,800 miles a year.

I suspect those statistics remain relevent if not exact, today.
Thanks. I assume our MOA numbers would be quite a bit less without the Glaves' totals

6. Originally Posted by PGlaves
Ah, so there is no such thing as long ... only a lack of short???
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I think it is the other way around " no such thing as short, only lack of long".

7. Originally Posted by nelliott
I think it is the other way around " no such thing as short, only lack of long".
Yeah, I didn't want to touch that one... I thought maybe one of the ladies would chime in and extol the virtues of short verses long.

8. Originally Posted by akbeemer
In any case, riding less than 4000 miles a year is Harleysque in nature, meaning low.

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9. It kind of is what you think it is. Lots of factors to consider, to many to quantify. If you do a lot of other stuff, maybe you make one big 2000 mile trip a year, and then just get to scoot about. Maybe a 150 mile ride is a long ride for you. This is just one of those subjective things. Personally, I feel a bit robbed if I don't ride my expensive BMW 5-6 thousand miles a year. But maybe there's someone else with a different schedule, who still rides a long way but gets less rides in.

A long distance is any distance where the rider feels they are venturing far from home would be my statement. For a new rider that may be 100 miles, for a seasoned rider maybe they don't feel long distancy until they cross that 4th state line.

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10. I think long distance riding is when you get used to and don't mind your stock BMW seat after a few days.

11. Originally Posted by lkchris
I think long distance riding is when you get used to and don't mind your stock BMW seat after a few days.
Nice.

12. A stock BMW seat is only good for a few feet, not days.

13. Originally Posted by f650624
A stock BMW seat is only good for a few feet, not days.
I'd disagree having done 14k on my stock RT seat of which three trips were over 2000 miles in under 4 days each with zero complaints.

14. To me, long distance has nothing to do with annual mileage. I used to commute 50 miles each way to work on the bike, every day the weather permitted (8 months of the year usually) so I racked up a lot of miles in a year but was unable to do long trips during that phase of my life. Compared to my 1,000 mile days when on a 'long' trip a time or two, these commute days did not seem long distance. So, as implied in several posts above: apples, oranges, kiwi, banana, canteloupe. All good but very different.

15. Originally Posted by 58058D
To me, long distance has nothing to do with annual mileage. I used to commute 50 miles each way to work on the bike, every day the weather permitted (8 months of the year usually) so I racked up a lot of miles in a year but was unable to do long trips during that phase of my life. Compared to my 1,000 mile days when on a 'long' trip a time or two, these commute days did not seem long distance. So, as implied in several posts above: apples, oranges, kiwi, banana, canteloupe. All good but very different.
Totally agree, used to ride 1,200 miles round trip from Sarasota FL to Suches GA every two weeks for 3 yrs put a lot of miles on the bike but did not get anywhere.

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