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Tires

cseltz

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Today I took a drywall screw in the back tire. The bike (happened to be a friend's 1976 Sportster) was AAAed to the nearest motorcycle shop which happened to be a Harley dealer. They were very nice folks. They did tell me that even though the tire on the back was effectively brand new, once it had been punctured it could not be reused. It had to be replaced. This is a tubed tire and the hole was small. I thought for sure you could just screw the drywall screw out and either patch or replace the tube. This made no sense to me and I wonder if anyone can shed light on their opinion. Perhaps I made a mistake telling the fellow behind the counter that my regular rider was a BMW?
 
Many dealers will not repair a tire in any way; some will. Whether their reticence is due to greed, liability concerns or true concern for the rider only they can say.
 
I would think a good plug/patch installed from the inside of tire along with a new tube would be just fine. But I am not a tort lawyer nor a tire dealer.
 
Even though I live in Canada and we aren't nearly as litigious as my neighbours to the south, in my shop, we generally decline tire repairs for no other reason than liability. We aren't tire specialists. There are shops that have Certified Tire Specialists and generally we will pass the customer on to them.

Likewise, these shops call us to change things like wheel studs because they don't want the liability.
 
To add a bit of insult to injury, the tires that are on the bike are not tires that this shop stocks. The replacement must match the original or they will have to replace both the front and rear tire. They are checking to see if they can order the correct tire! From the sound of the replies, people seem to take this as more of a legal issue than a safety issue. The "intake specialist" at the dealership claimed that it was a safety issue and that re-using the punctured tire could end up in a dead rider. Same goes for mismatched tires. He says that front and rear must match or the bike is unsafe. A lot has changed since I was riding in my teens!
 
Nice way to sell extra tires. If you were riding at 10/10 all the time, you might be able to tell the difference, but his ascertation that you will end up in a ditch dead someplace because you have 2 different tire brands on your bike is ludicrous. I would plug patch the old tire and be on the road. This is one of the reasons I purchased my No Mar tire machine, not getting ripped off...
 
Maybe I'm missing something here, but hasn't the historical way (eons ago before tubeless tires) to deal with this sort of puncture in a TUBED tire been to pull out the offending pointy object and replace the tube...:banghead ?
 
If a plugged tubed tire can't be used, think of the millions of dead bikers in ditches since the early twentieth century. Loser pays is so long overdue in this country. And then the two-fer, law schools could become motorcycle maintenance training centers! FWInotW.
 
Maybe I'm missing something here, but hasn't the historical way (eons ago before tubeless tires) to deal with this sort of puncture in a TUBED tire been to pull out the offending pointy object and replace the tube...:banghead ?

I love this reply. So true. I think this method is the one I still use with my trusty bicycle. Thanks JW, I needed a good laugh this morning.
 
To add a bit of insult to injury, the tires that are on the bike are not tires that this shop stocks. The replacement must match the original or they will have to replace both the front and rear tire. They are checking to see if they can order the correct tire! From the sound of the replies, people seem to take this as more of a legal issue than a safety issue. The "intake specialist" at the dealership claimed that it was a safety issue and that re-using the punctured tire could end up in a dead rider. Same goes for mismatched tires. He says that front and rear must match or the bike is unsafe. A lot has changed since I was riding in my teens!

Do you have a set of tire irons and a place to work? Break the bead with a 8" C-clamp and install your own patch from NAPA.

The guys at the dealership are not nice people.
 
I love this reply. So true. I think this method is the one I still use with my trusty bicycle. Thanks JW, I needed a good laugh this morning.

Adding the patch buys you a small bit of security. But, if you were on the road, the tube replacement is a tried and true, not to mention much faster, repair.
 
To add a bit of insult to injury, the tires that are on the bike are not tires that this shop stocks. The replacement must match the original or they will have to replace both the front and rear tire.

Ok, call me ignorant, but WHY do they have to replace BOTH tires? No liability can be assigned to them if they don't touch the existing tire. Starting to sound more like a scam. Heck you could remove the wheel and bring it to them and they would require you to purchase two tires?
 
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