Rear Flange Recall - BMW "Technical Campaign"

bigjohn72 · Mar 11, 2015

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/bmw-recalls-r-and-k-series-bikes/26384.html

I'm wondering if this includes a final drive inspection... If it's ligit anyway this is starting to make the rounds today and I'm surprised it has not been posted yet...

20774 · Mar 11, 2015

Unless I didn't enter the right information, the US DOT website doesn't show any recalls for R1200GS bikes related to the rear wheel flange.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchSafetyIssues

I try to keep a list of recall notices here:

http://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php?72127-Listing-of-Recall-Notices

Mika started posting information about recalls, so I pulled the info into one place. I try to keep up on anything new, but might be missing the newest entries.

pglaves · Mar 11, 2015

I'm not at all sure NHTSA lists recalls that are initiated by and voluntary on the part of the manufacturer.

dbrick · Mar 11, 2015

PGlaves said:
I'm not at all sure NHTSA lists recalls that are initiated by and voluntary on the part of the manufacturer.

Correct, NHTSA doesn't do that.
The VisorDown article says this is a "service campaign," so it's not mandated from outside.

20774 · Mar 11, 2015

I'm going to change the title of this thread to expand on the word recall...use the term technical campaign as well just to be clear.

David13 · Mar 11, 2015

And just to clarify further and I don't know but I believe a technical service bulletin, or service campaign, or service bulletin does not pay for the item for you either, does it?
I think they still end up sticking you with the bill, don't they?
Whereas recall law is that they have to do the whole thing free, isn't it?
And also that's why it's a little more difficult to get a recall going.
dc

BC1100S · Mar 11, 2015

David13 said:
And just to clarify further and I don't know but I believe a technical service bulletin, or service campaign, or service bulletin does not pay for the item for you either, does it?

Every car/bike I've ever had has, at some point, had a service bulletin (not a mandated recall) issued on it. Never cost me a penny. The biggest one was, "Dear Sir, We'd like to replace all the valve springs on your Lexus."

Your experience may vary.

marcopolo · Mar 11, 2015

David13 said:
And just to clarify further and I don't know but I believe a technical service bulletin, or service campaign, or service bulletin does not pay for the item for you either, does it?
I think they still end up sticking you with the bill, don't they?
Whereas recall law is that they have to do the whole thing free, isn't it?
And also that's why it's a little more difficult to get a recall going.
dc

If the article is correct, it quotes BMW's news release as saying that it's free of charge, as one would expect.

akbeemer · Mar 11, 2015

Just like the EWS antenna snafu. That was not a recall either. It came out as a service bulletin.

David13 · Mar 11, 2015

I had two bikes under the EWS recall and did neither of them.
I think some things are better left alone.
I also have not had the fuel tank looked at.
And, they did a recall on some, but not all the fuel pump controllers. Even tho' they are all the same controller.
I wonder if they will let me pull my rear axle assembly, take it in, and just get the spider (flange) mounted on it.
dc

kthutchinson · Mar 12, 2015

Since the original article appeared 0n a UK web site, does it apply here in the US?

dunc723 · Mar 12, 2015

kthutchinson said:
Since the original article appeared 0n a UK web site, does it apply here in the US?

The article said, "It's understood to affect around 300,000 bikes globally including 23,000 in the UK."

kthutchinson · Mar 12, 2015

Thanks for the info. Now, does anyone have access to the Service Bulletin that covers this campaign?

bigjohn72 · Mar 13, 2015

It's making the rounds:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2015/march/bmw-recalls-300000-r-and-k-models/

On a side note: wouldn't it be a laugh if this was what was causing some of the final drive and line failures? Out of balance, not aligned right, warped, etc...

David13 · Mar 13, 2015

No John, I wouldn't believe that any more than I believe that the problem is over tightening the wheel bolts.
I think it's just a defective flange. Either engineered wrong, with the wrong material, or bad material in and of itself.
dc

bigjohn72 · Mar 13, 2015

Half full! The glass is half full!

:fight

hehe

weschmann · Mar 13, 2015

David13 said:
And just to clarify further and I don't know but I believe a technical service bulletin, or service campaign, or service bulletin does not pay for the item for you either, does it?
I think they still end up sticking you with the bill, don't they?
Whereas recall law is that they have to do the whole thing free, isn't it?
And also that's why it's a little more difficult to get a recall going.
dc

I just had both switches on the handlebar changed out based on a service bulletin, for no charge a couple weeks back. I booked a service for my 700 GS for the 18,000 mile interval, and my dealer scheduled the change for the same period. I didn't even know there was a bulletin out for the switches, so there you go. Says a lot for developing a good dealer/customer relationship. That cost was close to $500 U.S. that could have had to come out of my pocket if I experienced the issues that apparently several other owners were involved in......but the service bulletin took care of it.

pglaves · Mar 13, 2015

When there is a defect that could cause a critical part to fracture, allowing the wheel to fall off, it is likely that there would be a recall if BMW didn't initate the replacements voluntarily. I suspect they knew that!

henzilla · Mar 13, 2015

David13 said:
No John, I wouldn't believe that any more than I believe that the problem is over tightening the wheel bolts.
I think it's just a defective flange. Either engineered wrong, with the wrong material, or bad material in and of itself.
dc

The original design flange looked like a water jet cut from a solid aluminum billet piece.....the new style is a stamped/forged piece that does look beefier with gussets. A buddy had a new FD unit for his K13GT and the new style flange was on it.
My 05 RT had cracks thru the rotor mounting points where the flange was threaded for the rotor screws. Was replaced around the end of 2006.
Had nothing to do with wheel mounting bolt area then.

lkchris · Mar 13, 2015

They've been cracking at the rotor mount points for 10 years. Likilhood there would ever be an official recall seems small.

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