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    Well..not trying to start a pissin' contest but,..there are many actions / behaviors by motorcyclist that annoy car drivers as well.
    Bottom line is ...no matter the vehicle, there are some butt-heads that happen to drive / ride them...{Case in point..the a$$holes in diesel pickups rollin' coal} That's about as asinine as it gets.

    And there is no excuse for purposely damaging anyone's property...weather ya like it or not, doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKsuited View Post
    I don't draft anyone in my Prius. I don't have to. I easily get 50+ mpg in anything above 50F so why would I tailgate anyone? And that happens to be my pet peeve: tailgaters.

    Calm down, people, the Prius won't take away your precious gas-guzzling V-8. Sheesh.

    Harry
    I'm calm- no worries- don't care what anyone drives......and now that I think about it- I don't even own a V8. I do notice that the Prius drivers don't seem to "enjoy the ride" the way someone in say, a Porsche or a Jeep do. Probably a great car to park in the city.
    If I was looking for a new car- on the small side, it would still have to make me smile when I drive it- perhaps a Ford Focus RS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken F View Post
    I'll bet BMW's entry into the market will be able to keep up with traffic however...........

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    Hmmm......what are I and AKSuited missing? Other than having the thrill of more money in our pocket, I don't think too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken F View Post
    Germany has a great law that I'd like to see put into effect here:

    If you are in the left lane on an Autobahn, and you are hit in the arse, it's automatically your fault.

    And yes, in the midwest we are also affected with the "Prius Syndrome"
    I never really considered that it would be possible to despise a perticular automobile.... but I'm getting there!

    Every time I see one on the road it makes my blood pressure rise, no matter what lane they are in!

    Ken
    There are quite a few laws about driving in the left lane of the autobahn -

    • slower traffic keep right
    • never pass on the right
    • use your turn signals to indicate a lane change
    • it illegal to run out of fuel on the autobahn
    • if there are three lanes, trucks cannot drive in the left hand lane
    • it is illegal to back up on the autobahn


    - but I have never heard the one about getting hit in the rear. I lived in Germany for four years. I had to take a written and sign identification test twice. I never heard of that rule. It could be a new rule. Things change . . . but not very often in Germany.

    There is a failure to use right lane law. As of 2014, if you are ticketed it will cost you 80 Euros.

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    Can't say I have seen then her. I've seen every type of vehicle be a moving road block in the left lane. Was on the interstate a hole group passing others had to shut down real fast because a pickup with trailer loaded with house hold items was going just over the minimum speed limit in the left lane. Was coming back a few hours later and close to the same area were I pass this truck there was all over the center medium was house hold item. Never heard but I think this truck got rearended.
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    In the vast prairies of the great plains and the wooded hills and corn fields just to their east the rolling roadblocks and other strange driving behaviors are not observed in Prius cars so much. They are predominantly observed in Ford Crown Victoria cars, usually white. Slow in the fast lane, fast in the slow lane, slow in the only lane, etc. Often they seem to like the same speed. 52 in a 65, then 52 in the 45 entering town, then 52 in the 35 all the way to the Walmart parking lot.

    However, I shall never forget the elderly gentleman who pulled out in front of me and headed out of town somewhere in the northern Ozarks a couple of years ago. "Oh no, I'll never get around him in these twisties" was my thought. But he took off and it was absolutely everything I could do to keep up with him, let alone get close enough to pass.

    As he slowed entering the next town about 15 miles down the road I rode up behind him and was quite chagrined to see his license plate frame which proudly announced "Pearl Harbor Survivor". That old boy knew that road and he knew how to drive it!!
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    As an aside but to the point, Voni's 16 year old Saturn SC1 gets 40 mpg with a normal internal combustion engine, and will do it even if you drive it like a normal person instead of like a hydroelectricalmechanical housewife engineer.

    But rest assured and be happy - they are now working frantically on cars that drive themselves. Bumper cars with sensors!! Yippee!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    I do notice that the Prius drivers don't seem to "enjoy the ride" the way someone in say, a Porsche or a Jeep do.
    Huh?

    You are imagining things. I guess it does something like this, "A Prius gets 50+ mpg, therefore there has to be something about it to cancel out that goodness. Yeah, it must be frightfully boring and even painful to drive."

    A Porsche probably is more fun to drive than a Prius, except the part about making payments on a $100K car or whatever they cost. A Jeep more fun than a Prius? When I see a Jeep of any sort on the highway, I feel sorry for the person who is using 2 or 3 times as much gasoline to do exactly what I am doing, going from Point A to Point B.

    When I want to have fun, I ride my motorcycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    As an aside but to the point, Voni's 16 year old Saturn SC1 gets 40 mpg with a normal internal combustion engine, and will do it even if you drive it like a normal person instead of like a hydroelectricalmechanical housewife engineer.

    But rest assured and be happy - they are now working frantically on cars that drive themselves. Bumper cars with sensors!! Yippee!!
    Voni's SC1 has either a 85 or 100-hp engine which propels a 2400~2500-lb compact car. My wife's Gen 3 Prius has a 98-hp 4-cyl engine and a 36-hp electric motor for a combined output of 134-hp to propel a 3000-lb mid-size car.

    Bigger car, more power and higher fuel mileage.......... even a hydroelectricalmechanical engineer can understand that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKsuited View Post
    Huh?

    You are imagining things.

    Harry
    When he said Jeep...............everything just went in the ditch. I mean, Jeeps are vehicles for people that can't afford homes on paved roads and have no need to ever carry anything with them. Otherwise, they would have a 4x4 truck.

    The Porsche part, I think I understand, but have never experienced. I'm too practical for that style of car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken F View Post
    I'll bet BMW's entry into the market will be able to keep up with traffic however...........

    Ken
    The Prius can too. Some drivers are the issue. I ran solo Cleveland to Denver in my 2008 Prius in 24 hours including a 3 hour nap. That is an average of around 65 MPH including gas stops and an hour lost when the girl ahead of me rolled her car on I-80. (not including sleep time) included in that is a brief period of triple digit speeds. Most of the time I just set the cruise at limit + 9. I certainly passed more people than passed me. The only time the car got annoying was in the mountains where I'd quickly drain the battery climbing and spend the rest of the ascent sounding like a snowmobile. On long descents, the battery would charge fully on regenerative braking and then let the car start freewheeling. A shift into braking mode would introduce engine braking, but it caught me off guard the first time. Regardless, they are fine little cars and even handle small jumps without complaint. The traction control is overzealous so they need good winter tire to get out of their own way in the snow.


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    That said, they are reliable but boring. If an M3 is akin to an S1000, the Prius is a Silverwing scooter. There is no soul stirring sound, no phenomenal acceleration or handling, but they are reliable and fuel efficient. The are also light on maintenance requirements. I changed the first set of front brake pads at 110,000 miles; regenerative braking doe have advantages.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rxcrider View Post
    That said, they are reliable but boring
    They help you save money for toys.........
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