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Dual Sporters: Ride to Old Mexico with AZ Beemers!

beemerdons

Certifiable Old Fart
Dual Sporters: Ride to Mexico with AZ Beemers, BMW MOA Club #89! For AZB every 2 years like clockwork MOA Club #89 AZ Beemers rides deep into Old Mexico on our BMW's!

Join us on this ride next March traveling dirt and pavement to Real de Catorce and Huasteca. Like our Ride to Copper Canyon last year, we have enlisted MotoDiscovery to provide us with a 4WD support vehicle and a driver/guide.

There are twelve openings for this trip, eight deposits have already been placed.

You are welcome on any dual sport machine that you operate, for AZB the bikes of choice are the R1200GS and the F650/800 Twins; KTM's are welcome!

Huasteca Mexico Adventure Expedition Motorcycle Tour
 
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From MotoDiscovery Owner/Operator Skip Mascorro: Tour Character

This is an adventure ride that will be a mix of paved touring and off road explorations. Off road riding will be moderately challenging for the experienced, spirited and physically abled riding enthusiast. Some days will provide options to take the pavement or experience off road sections. As with any MotoDiscovery Expedition, teamwork and flexibility are essential.

So you want to see the REAL Mexico.
This ride is inspired by long time supporter, Don Stanley who has shared many roads with MotoDiscovery dating back to our dates as Pancho Villa Moto-Tours. His love of Mexico, passion for challenge and laid back attitude has always made for great contribution to the success and enjoyment of any tour.

Don collaborated with MotoDiscovery to create a ride through what could arguably be considered one of Mexico?s most beautiful, yet overlooked regions, the Huasteca. This east central region is filled with geographical diversity, a richness in history and native culture, and an opportunity to enjoy great riding both on and off the pavement. This area is highlighted by the most northern cloud forests in the hemisphere, the El Cielo Biosphere Reserve, a UNESCO sight that covers about 560 square miles reaching a peak altitude of 7,500 ft. above sea level.

One stop where we'll be for two nights is the legendary Real de Catorce, a hidden away Colonial era mining town in the high altiplano, accessed only after riding through a one kilometer long tunnel after climbing up a 14 mile long hand laid cobble stone road. On exiting the tunnel it is like you have experienced passage into a time zone, set you clocks back two hundred years. Real de Catorce will invite exploration both on two wheels and walking the old streets of this revitalized once ghost town.

In the usual MotoDiscovery style this event will be supported by our great staff team, a 4X4 vehicle and driver will be employed to bring up the rear, and depending on the group size one to two riding staff will lead the way. Great food, the best available accommodations and the benefit of over 33 years of experience in Old Mexico guarantees this to be a great riding event.

Sign up soon. This one will fill fast. Don't miss out on this pioneering event into the heart of Old Mexico. Vamanos muchachos!
 
This Expedition is over March 9-18, 2015 and here is the Mexico Ride Itinerary:

Day 1: McAllen, Texas
Day 2: Santiago
Day 3: Galeana
Day 4: Real de Catorce
Day 5: Real de Catorce
Day 6: Cielo Biosphere
Day 7: Huasteca
Day 8: Huasteca
Day 9: Hacienda Santa Engracia
Day 10: McAllen, TX
 
This You Tube MotoDiscovery Video highlights the scenery we'll enjoy on the first five days of our Mexico Dirt Bike Expedition Ride; 3/9-3/18 of 2015!

MotoDiscovery The Road to Real Expedition - YouTube

Photograph of Real de Catorce, courtesy of K1600 Friend Marco Rye of Guadalajara, Mexico:

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This looks an epic trip!!

Brother Spinto, please consider yourself cordially invited to join us on this ride!

If you currently don't have/own a dirt bike, MD rents Suzuki DR650's reasonably!

Here is our Italian Friend Paolo riding one of Skip's rental DR's, in great shape and low mileage. Interesting story on Paolo, back home in Milan the largest moto he had ever operated was his Vespa 300 but he did an incredible job of riding the rough Copper Canyon Trails!

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Hello Don,
It was great meeting Jim and I do hope he'll consider joining us.
I can land him a DR650 Suzuki, outfitted for $750. That would be a perfect bike for this trip.
Encourage him to drop me a note or call if he has any questions.
Saludos amigo,
Skip Mascorro
FOUNDER

685 Persimmon Hill
Bulverde, TX 78163
Toll Free USA & Canada 1(800) 233-0564
PH (830) 438-7744
skip@motodiscovery.com
http://www.motodiscovery.com
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On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Don Stanley <beemerdons@aol.com> wrote:
From my Friend Jim F. of Washington State: I will also have to rent a bike, again how much?

Today I attended a vintage motorcycle show at the LeMay Auto Museum in Tacoma. While there I ran in to Skip Mascorro. What a nice fellow and of course he had many complements about you, which are all well deserved.

So are there any opening for the March 2015 ride to Mexico? If so how much? I will also have to rent a bike, again how much?

I think it is time to change thing up and this ride just might be the ticket.

Once again it sure was a pleasure riding with you during SW-FOG.

I retire in 2 years and 4 months. I hope to join some of the rides you organize when I don't have to work anymore.

Thanks,

Jim F.

http://www.motodiscovery.com/Huasteca-Mexico-Adventure-Expedition-Motorcycle-Tour Hola Jim, it would be fantastic if you could make this Expedition with us. I will make sure you have a spot on this tour even if it sells out at twelve, Skip and I are long time friends: He'll work with me!

The cost of the tour is $3,389 and I have already sent Skip my $800 deposit, prior to the trip I will send Nancy Mascorro the $2,589 balance.

I will send Skip an email regarding the rental bike cost, I know on the 9-day Copper Canyon tour a BMW GS Sertao supplement is $1000.

Mas Caminos y mas Amigos, Suerte!

Don Stanley
Chandler, AZ

beemerdons@aol.com
Cell #: 480-440-4666
 
At Noon on 8/26 there are only 3 openings left for this Real de Catorce and Huasteca, Mexico trip! Fontanaman Jim has been added to the Attendance Roster!

1. canucklehead-biker
2. BeemerDonS
3. bbolesaz - BB
4. Back Road Bob
5. CHRIS_D
6. D Wells
7. BearTrax
8. yamafitter
9. Fontanaman-Jim
 
BUMP REMINDER: On 9/7 there are only three openings left for the "Mother of all Mexico Dirt Bike Rides", don't miss the chance to ride the tropical wilderness trails and roads of the Huasteca-Potosina region with infamous Polish-Mexican Bandito Billy Fitz - The Scourge of the Sierra Madre, ese! *jes' sayin' and nuff said, eh!

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Getting some offroad riding practice in before our Mexico Expedition next March. Photos and narrative from AZ Beemers Member Gary "Mudslide" Miller!

Five of us had a great ride to Crown King yesterday. *Don, Barry, Ty, Brian & Gary had breakfast at The Mill Restaurant out on the nice cool shaded patio and then 3 of us continued on back across I-17 to Bloody Basin Rd & on down Cave Creek Rd back to the pavement. *The dirt roads were in pretty good shape considering the recent storms. *Crown King Road had been regraded & Bloody Basin had a few rutted out areas but nothing major. The views were spectacular & the desert is pretty plush green right now after all the rain. Usually by end of summer it is burnt brown. I logged 65 miles of pavement & 105 miles of dirt. Fortunately the temps were tolerable, even after we got back to Cave Creek. *Great day, great ride & great company.* Thanks to Don for organizing.

View on the way to Crown King


View on Crown King Rd


Crown King Rd


Arriving in CK


At The Mill Restaurant




Barry & Don looking pretty hungry


Brian & Ty


Acorn woodpecker having breakfast


View from Bloody Basin Rd


Bloody Basin Rd


Bloody Basin Rd winding down the mountain


A nice green desert


A rest stop at Bloody Basin & Cave Creek roads


Brian & his Yamaha Tenere


Ty & his BMW F700
 
AZ Beemer Motos ready to ride dirt. *Great practice and training for our Mexico ride in March!

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Our Chevron meet up and departure time was the same as the Phoenix Sport Bike Riders Club!

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Gary "Mudslide" Miller enjoying his morning Smirnoff Vodka and Gatorade refreshment!

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Papa Chuy Viejo's "Senorita Salma Hayek" snuggled in between two sleek Ducatis! *Viva Italia, ese!

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The Crown King Road was in perfect shape, Barry Beartrax playing "Hello Kitty" on his cellphone!

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Great Day, Great Dirt Bike Riding and Great Motorcycle Companions: Doesn't get any better than this!

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Just before a fantastic Breakfast at The Mill Restaurant, food was delicious and plenty of it too!

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AV Geek - Brian's Yamaha Super Tenere is a good looking machine, he definitely rides it well ese!

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Let's get some more group dirt riding in before we leave for Mexico in March, ese!

Great pics and a great ride!

From Gary "Mudslide" Miller: That was good fun Brian. Let me know when you guys are up for more dirt. There's tons around here to explore.

My Fellow Zonie Dirt Donks: How about a ride to Young, Arizona on Sunday, October 19 via the Apache Trail? Have a light breakfast at Tortilla Flats and then a late lunch at the Antlers and then make a big loop back to Phoenix through Payson. Any later this year and snow starts flying! jes' sayin' and nuff said, ese!

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=945131

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Antlers-Cafe-Bar/215070661894085

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I'm seriously considering doing this with a pal (we both have GS1200's). How does this tour differ from say the Copper Canyon one that is also offered by MotoDiscovery? We are both experienced off-roaders....this one sounds like its mostly blacktop whereas Copper Canyon is mostly dirt?

Copper Canyon Crazies - ADVrider

This will have just as much dirt as Copper Canyon MotoDiscovery Tour offers!

We AZ Beemers have used Pancho Villa Moto Tours-MotoDiscovery for many years now on our Custom Tours they design just to our specific directions!

We can make the Huasteca/Potosina ride have as much dirt as it is feasible!

Check out the link to our AZ Beemers Copper Canyon MotoDiscovery Custom Tour.
 
We did the Real de Catorce ride with MotoDiscovery a few years back (as part of the Colonial Mexico tour) - that's NOT off-road riding at all - we did it with a group on K1200 LT's. You will see some gravel and improved dirt roads - but even the dirt roads there have good drainage and virtually all have speed bumps. Great riding in that part of the world - epic mountain roads - just watch out for goats and burros behind the next bluff in the twisties.

For those who say they won't go into Mexico - I understand why, but disagree - we take a friggin motorcycle out on the road, with no seat belts air airbags, no protective metal shell, and ride among smart-phone-addled idiots, yet Mexico intimidates?

It is the IDEA of Mexico - what the media tells people about Mexico is what keeps you away - the reality is that in most areas of Mexico, you are, on average, safer than in the U.S., also on average. ****, there are over 7,000 American retirees living happily in one Mexican city alone - San Miguel de Allende, representing more than 10% of the city's 59,000 population. It is an amazing UNESCO World Heritage Site - a place anyone can visit and feel like a local.

Like the urban ills in the U.S, the people who are targeted for crime tend to be criminals or live among them. We have a house near Baltimore, where there are murders almost every day. I do carry when inside the city, but have never felt in danger. Attacks on American tourists are very very rare - so they make big news when they happen - but a lot more tourists are attacked every year in New York City than in all of Mexico. With that said, the case of the American Marine who made a wrong turn carrying weapons is disturbing - but like all of the cases I have heard about, including the 2012 killing of a tourist (David Hartley was jet skiing in an area known to be used by narco-traffickers) on the Rio Grande's Falcon Lake, there has been a "story" behind almost every incident - like carrying weapons into Mexico illegally. A mistake, yes, perhaps an honest mistake, but still a violation. Come on in, the water?s fine, or why there?s no logic in fearing a trip to Mexico | National Post

I carry a gun pretty much everywhere and have Maryland and VA carry permits. The Maryland permit is among the hardest in the U.S. to obtain, and I use it to carry almost weekly. Some would consider this paranoid, but I like insurance. Yet I still go to Mexico, typically two-up, often without a group, and without protection.

We leave the guns behind when going into Canada or Mexico, and have never felt threatened, even a little bit. I can't say that about South Dakota and Kansas, both places where my "protection" did us no good when needed. None of us are getting out of here alive. It isn't about b*lls at all - like riding a motorcycle, it is what makes life worth living.

A friend asked my wife and me why we took a two-month trip through Africa last year - a place where the corrupt police made us pay bribes daily, and where the animals, diseases, poor water, limited electrical power, bad roads, and remote services make it far more dangerous than anything in Mexico. We also never felt endangered there, even when dealing with bad cops and shady black market fuel dealer. Our pat response to people asking why we "take chances" is "We've raised our kids, completed our careers, and now spend some of our time doing things to give back, and the rest doing interesting things - and we plan to be dead for a very long time."

I highly recommend anything MotoDiscovery does - especially Mexico. Lee-Ann and I look forward to joining them on the Bob's BMW tour of Cuba next March, before riding the Ayres Adventures Epic Journey through Latvia, Russia, Kazakhstan, Siberia, Mongolia, China and Hong Kong next summer.

Links to the Cuba and Epic rides below:

Bobs BMW CUBA Motorcycle Tour

The Epic Journey - Moscow to Hong Kong by Motorcycle | Ayres Adventures

On a sobering note - Ron Ayres has had to stop riding for now - he's battling stage four liver cancer and had to leave the exploration trip for the Epic Adventure. That ride has been taken over by Ron's most senior guide, John Jesson, a great guy. Ron is hunkering down on the gulf coast while he battles this thing. Ride while you can.

Vaya con dios amigos!

Outstanding commentary dmfick, may I please have your permission to repost this excellent treatise on riding in Mexico to MOA Forum and AZB?

You and I share the same sentiments, 6 years in US Army overseas and 40 years in pipefitting construction and I've had a lifetime of close calls.

But at the end of my days, I want to look back unafraid at any of my life's adventures! Prayers of the Stanley Boys go out to Ron Ayres, Amen.
 
http://www.motodiscovery.com/Huasteca-Mexico-Adventure-Expedition-Motorcycle-Tour



Tour Character
This is an adventure ride that will be a mix of paved touring and off road explorations. Off road riding should only be moderately challenging for the experienced, spirited and physically abled riding enthusiast. Some days will provide options to take the pavement or experience off road sections. As with any MotoDiscovery Expedition, teamwork and flexibility are essential.

So you want to see the REAL Mexico.

DON STANLEY RODE WITH PANCHO VILLA..it is true! Don Stanley and MotoDiscovery:

The MotoDiscovery tribe is a special one. Within our loyal following there is one "veteran" out there who goes as far back as our Pancho Villa Moto-Tour days, the affable Don Stanley. We'd have to dig back into the archives to find out how many tours he has been on with us. Many! He rode with Pancho Villa for sure!

Don has inspired us to return to an area of Central Mexico on a high adventure ride through the Huasteca region along with a few friends and an open invitation for you to ride along and experience one of the most charming regions you'll find South of the Border.
It is great having you with us again Don. Muchas gracias amigo!

Don collaborated with MotoDiscovery to create a ride through what could argualbey be considered one of Mexico’s most beautiful, yet overlooked regions, the Huasteca. This east central region is filled with geographcial diversity, a richness in history and native culture, and an opportunity to enjoy great riding both on and off the pavement. This area is highlighted by the most northern cloud forests in the hemisphere, the El Cielo Biosphere Reserve, a UNESCO sight that covers about 560 square miles reaching a peak altitude of 7,500 ft. above sea level.

One stop where we’ll be for two nights is the legendary Real de Catorce, a hidden away Colonial era mining town in the high altiplano, accessed only after riding through a one kilometer long tunnel after climbing up a 14 mile long hand laid cobble stone road. On exiting the tunnel it is like you have experienced passage into a time zone set back two hundred years. Real de Catorce will invite exploration both on two wheels and walking the old streets of this revitalized once ghost town.

In the usual MotoDiscovery style this event will be supported by our great staff team, a 4X4 vehicle and driver will be employed to bring up the rear, and depending on the group size one to two riding staff will lead the way. Great food, the best available accommodations and the benefit of over 33 years of experience in Old Mexico guarantees this to be a great riding event.

Sign up soon. This one will fill fast. Don’t miss out on this pioneering event into the heart of Old Mexico. Vamanos muchachos!
 
Thought you BMW MOA Forumites might enjoy this video of Papa Chuy Viejo riding to San Miguel de Allende MEX in January of 2006, produced by Pancho Villa Moto-Tours Guide Rick Lopez. The last minute of this 8 minute video features Hacienda Santa Engracia, which wiil be our last overnight stop in Mexico on our ride back to Estados Unidos ese!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYU9qBKZsT4
 
Don, which bike are you taking?

Back Road Bob: I am taking a bike to Huasteca/Potosina y Real de Catorce that looks a lot like the blue moto on on the left, which sort of looks like the white bike on the right - if that GS bike had new sprockets and a new drive chain on it ese! jes' sayin' and nuff said, Ai Caramba!

 
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