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    Timing Chain tensioner replaced

    On my 2013 GT. BMW of Denver service dept. called to inform me the replacement tensioner was in hand one day before I rec'd mail notification from BMWNA that the parts were now available. I wrapped my annual service around the recall replacement and was on my way in less than four hours. All's well that ends well.

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    Appointment for replacement is a couple of weeks out at Foothills BMW
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    Reference, my first motorcycle, a KZ550A1, also had a defective cam chain tensioner.
    And Harley Davidson has went several rounds of cam chain tensioner problems, that can also result in catastrophic engine failure with no recall that I know of. The aftermarket solution is to install a gear drive, of course you have to also not have excess crankshaft runout. They use a built up crank, and it tends to slip on the crank pins, and also have undersize crank bearings. The aftermarket has solutions for these also. What we BMW folks lack is a dedicated aftermarket that can come up with GOOD solutions.

    Sometimes for the OEM to admit defeat and make a good fix, is hard. Note here about 1150 clutches.

    Rod

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    I took my bike in for the replacement and they told me they did not have parts, either at my dealer or anywhere else in the country! And they have no idea when they will arrive.

    So now, I'm apparently supposed to either ride it as-is, which according to the dealer they describe as "only" having a risk of stalling (great, engine failure in motion, that's safe?), without mentioning the possibility of catastrophic engine failure.

    I love, love, love this bike, so comfortable, practical, and luxurious, but after being one of the initial sufferers of stalling when I got it, which is extremely dangerous, poor quality parts on the drop protectors (which I also waited almost a year after paying for them to receive if memory serves), and now this, I am starting to have real questions about BMW quality and service.

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    Get mine done this Saturday, spoke with service manager last week. He's got parts they have me scheduled he says it takes about two hours. I'll let you know.
    I cannot say enough about my dealership (BMW of Countryside).
    Sales, service both top notch.
    Agree about the scoot.
    Do you miss the clutch? Yeah I really miss it, especially in stop and go. Like not.
    It's got some grunt, hauls tons of stuff in the boot . . what is it 60 some litres?
    Big comfy tractor seat and boards

    Not sure where you are at, might let us know

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    Not sure where you are at, might let us know
    I'm in the San Francisco bay area. Of course the dealer should have known better than to have me in for a service they did not have parts for, but this is really BMW corporate's fault - why would they send out a recall notice without parts available, and why would they not have parts available or suggest loaner bikes for a manifestly dangerous condition?

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    I think I received two notices, the initial notice and then the actual recall notice.
    I remember I called my guys right after the first notice and Peter my service manager said, "not yet".
    Weather is wreaking havoc with my appointment this morning, will report back.
    Not to minimize our issue but imagine how the 2014 RT owners feel.
    No ride notice from BMW and iirc as yet no solution.
    Hang in there.

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    Wifes scooter has been at long beach bmw since beginning of week awaiting the new parts, first in line with the coming weeks shipment. It appears every scooter recalled came in for the repair last week, when I made the appointment they had twenty five in stock, by Tuesday none left. Hopefully they will comp the oil change they are doing for the delay

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    I was going to mention the Harley chain tensioner issues. But someone else did.
    Some of the other BMWs have also had chain tensioner issues.
    I replaced the chain tensioner on my F800ST. They had an issue there.
    I think they just try to make the parts cheaper all the time. And inevitably end up making them (obtaining them) from a supplier so cheap that they fail and then must be replaced.
    And a new supplier found, if the are sub K parts.
    dc

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    hydrolic chain tensioners are a known weak link, ask any older 911 owner. Solution is either a mechanical or combination mechanical/ oil pressure type. Your right in that the low bid wins when supplying parts, and sometimes ends up costing a great deal more ie the RT issue. In retrospect the engine manufacturer should have know this issue long before scooter was introduced.

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    In she goes

    Did the tensioner this morning.
    Was told it would take 2 hours.
    Took 90 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wezul View Post
    Did the tensioner this morning.
    Was told it would take 2 hours.
    Took 90 minutes.
    Yep, they got the part and told me it would take an hour, will be over there tomorrow (and having a look at a GS Adventure low suspension while there... ).

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    Fixed without issue, back on the road and happy.

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    That was the longest hour (a little over a month)

    Quote Originally Posted by jiminsf View Post
    Fixed without issue, back on the road and happy.
    Jeff
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    I had the recall done. About 2 months ago I stopped in a store came out and had a hard time starting and would not run unless dragging the brake at high revs. Had to get towed to dealer

    The replacement tensioner had taken a dump and chain jumped a tooth. No damage to valve but they were adjusted. All covered under warranty.
    2013 C650GT
    1964 Vespa GS, 1968 Vespa SS 180, 1964 Vespa GL, 1967 Vespa GT

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