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    Shift and Hill Assist Options on 2014 1200 RT

    Does anyone have experience with the shift assist or hill assist? Has BMW put either of these on previous bikes and if so are they reliable? I think these two options are my biggest concern; that is, if these are serial number one designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 109418 View Post
    Does anyone have experience with the shift assist or hill assist? Has BMW put either of these on previous bikes and if so are they reliable? I think these two options are my biggest concern; that is, if these are serial number one designs.
    I have a version of gearshift assist on my 2008 HP2 Sport. This version only does upshifts, not down and it does a full throttle upshift as smooth as a good automatic transmission. Not much to break, just the sensor on the shift mechanism, the rest is software in the ECU. There is likely no extra mechanical parts to the hill assist, they are probably using existing brake switch(es) and software in the ABS Controller.
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    Gear Shift Assist

    I have a 2009 BMW K1300S and it has the Gear Shift Assistant. This feature allows full power upshifts without using the clutch to make the gear change. I don't recall if it's fueling, ignition or both that are interrupted for a few milliseconds during the shift but suffice it to say that this feature rocks! It's probably obvious that it would be a hoot when putting the hammer down but what actually comes as a bigger surprise is how easy and pleasant it is to ride the bike leisurely through town or in the country using this feature. It is absolutely effortless but it can't be used on downshifts -- that still has to be done "the old fashioned way". As for the Hill Assist, I can't comment because my K-bike didn't come with or offer that option but I can highly recommend GSA however. No issues with it whatsoever.

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    I was going to ask about shift assist and it's behavior when just trolling about.
    Good to hear that it helped on your S.

    Seems many folks have issues with the shift quality on their BMWs.
    Late Ks, new water cooled R12s.

    I've owned 2 different 2008 K1200GTs and they both shifted poorly. Makes me cringe when shifting 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd. Shouldn't be so challenging.

    As I recall, shift assist cost ~400 on the new RT.
    I'd have to check that box should I ever purchase one.

    d'milan

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    I have had 6 BMW's and never had any shifting problems! My new RT is in and I pick it up Tuesday. I will let you know how the shift assist works when the snow is gone and I can ride it! Winter sucks!!

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    What the heck is "Hill Assist"?

    I have heard of that on cars, where you need 3 feet at once, but on a bike, just hold the rear brake with your right foot, let the clutch out and go.
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    The shift assist is awesome. I use the clutch for 1-2 and sometimes 2-3 but other wise is incrediably smooth. Downshifting is a dream, roll off shift and go. Great in the twisties. The manual says not to use the hill assist as a parking brake but I do. Great when you need two hands and don't want to balance the bike and use the rear brake. I have not actually used it as intended. I plan on that next ride. So far great ride. It carves a turn like a hot knife in butter. Very little usable clutch range. Doesn't engage until almost all the way out. Understand it was like that on the wethead GSs. Going to a riding course Saturday. Lot of slow speed manuvering. Should be interesting getting used to the clutch.
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    Shift and Hill Assist Options on 2014 1200 RT

    Shifting is so easy... maybe easier than any motorcycle I've owned on my old 1996 r1100rt that it's hard for me to believe there would be a need for something called Shift Assist.

    I admit I've not been attuned to the latest and greatest new gear on the new bikes but "Hill Assist"? I have it on my 2013 Jeep Wrangler and can't stand it. Why not just eliminate the clutch completely and call it a Hondamatic.

    Maybe I'm just becoming cranky old guy?

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    So shift assist is cool, but I haven't totally got the hang of it. When I get it right it's smooth, super fast and puts a smile on my face, but when I get it wrong it's a clunk and lurch (but still fast though). I'm old school and still like pulling the clutch, so it may be a while before I figure the correct use of shift assist. On the other hand the hill assist totally exceeds my expectations. The first time I used it was pulling out of the dealers parking lot as they have a steep incline to the street. So just for fun I stopped and pulled hard on the front break lever and darned if I didn't need to do anything else except take off like I as on flat pavement. I've used it many times since and gotta say I really like this feature, it's effortless and intuitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 109418 View Post
    So shift assist is cool, but I haven't totally got the hang of it. When I get it right it's smooth, super fast and puts a smile on my face, but when I get it wrong it's a clunk and lurch (but still fast though).
    I've found the key to the shift assist is DON'T modulate the throttle while shifting, just keep the right hand steady.

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    High RPM Shift Assist

    I just finished the break-in and had to leave town so I am not riding for a couple of weeks.

    I was just wondering how well shift assist works on the 2014 RT at higher rev ranges like 6000+. Has anyone given this a try?

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    I had shift assist on a K1300. Just as the comment here, it can be clunky if you don't get it just right. I wouldn't bother as it's really under the "don't need" category. Most of the time it was annoying. There is a review of a '14 RT on youtube and that guy said not to waste your money.

    It was fun once in a while at full throttle on the K1300 because it was a sick fast bike, but you're not going for the 0-60 so much on the RT ;-)
    Last edited by gpw1200; 04-05-2014 at 09:47 PM.

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    BS. It is a good option. It works very well at high rpms. The downshifting is fantastic. Worth the $ in my opinion. 1-2 and 2-3 can be iffy but otherwise very nice.
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    I agree with Hogwide 100%. Love the Pro Shift. When I off a 3 day trip last weekend I didn't think I'd every ride my other bike again...

    Jay

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    I agree Hogwide and Jay ... I am finding the sweet spot for around town and it seems to be medium to low acceleration and 3000 + or -. On hard acceleration the shifts are quick and smooth, down shifts are perfection and sounds like GP auto shifting maintaining optimum RPM coming into a hairpin turn ... whats not to like. Coordinating the clutch is not the focus of my ride experience. Technology and automation that enhance and improve the operation and performance of product I'm all for, Pro Shift falls squarely into that category.
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