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BRAND NEW R90S Build by MAXBMW !!!
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Rinty
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A very clever marketing project, by Max. For the cost equivalent of a number of full page magazine ads, they've done something that's generated an "incredible" (in their words) response, from people all over the world.
As for what they'll do with the bike: bet that it will go on rotating display at their stores, with a professionally produced sign next to it, explaining how it came about.
As for what they'll do with the bike: bet that it will go on rotating display at their stores, with a professionally produced sign next to it, explaining how it came about.
Paladinwest
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Probably the way that every custom chopper builder in the US registers their "bikes". Just because it looks like a 1975 BMW R90S doesn't mean that it necessarily needs to be registered as one. They have indicated on their Facebook page that they intend to register it and see the registration as "just going through a process". I have registered a number of rebuilt motorcycles with no registrations (including some that had never been registered) and they all were just a matter of doing a bunch of paperwork, running around and spending some cash (sometimes a large helping of frustration was thrown in for free when you ran into a low level bureaucrat that couldn't deal with something out of the ordinary).
Six parts were not available new: swingarm, rear brake lever, rear brake linkage arm, tach drive gear (they substituted an electronic tach from a newer model since Motometer is no longer in business), tach drive washer, right fork slider (they plan on possibly substituting with R100S sliders to lower the number of used parts from 6 to 5).
Total cost of parts: $46,000.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty4rodPkLgQ&feature=share&list=UUTECvmv6LfMU9QUUdUpMhaw
They will be putting together an edited video documenting the build and test drive. I will try to post it as soon as I see it or if you see it first, put it up for all to enjoy.
Hats off to Max and his crew for a very interesting exercise!
Total cost of parts: $46,000.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty4rodPkLgQ&feature=share&list=UUTECvmv6LfMU9QUUdUpMhaw
They will be putting together an edited video documenting the build and test drive. I will try to post it as soon as I see it or if you see it first, put it up for all to enjoy.
Hats off to Max and his crew for a very interesting exercise!
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lmo1131
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Here in California one registers this kind of project as a "specially constructed vehicle". Most states have a similar provision.
Ref. -> http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/spcnsreg.htm
And just how does one obtain an emission control inspection...
Ref. -> http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/spcns.htm
If the registration year, in New Hampshire, is determined in a similar manner as here in California, I guess my question would be who would want a 2013 BMW 90s. I mean, I WOULD, because having a virtually new, reliable, R90S would be a total gas. But I would think that it's value as a "vintage" vehicle would be significantly compromised. But maybe this isn't an issue, if the machine isn't for sale.
AntonLargiader
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Brake linkage arm I know about; I've tried to get one! Max sells a repro but it's pricey.
I don't know what the difference is between a /6 fork leg and a /7 fork leg (which an R100S is); sounds like a logical substitution to me. Could be the fender mounting?
Tach; I think going with the electronic tach is another fine substitution. Takes care of the gear, washer and instrument in one fell swoop.
Brake arm, OK.
That list doesn't mention the instrument housing itself, which I understand is NLA.
redsky49
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If the registration year, in New Hampshire, is determined in a similar manner as here in California, I guess my question would be who would want a 2013 BMW 90s. I mean, I WOULD, because having a virtually new, reliable, R90S would be a total gas. But I would think that it's value as a "vintage" vehicle would be significantly compromised. But maybe this isn't an issue, if the machine isn't for sale.
In essence, can't the "year" be pretty much whatever Max chooses?
In essence, can't the "year" be pretty much whatever Max chooses?
Just repeating what I thought they said near the end of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty4rodPkLgQ&feature=share&list=UUTECvmv6LfMU9QUUdUpMhaw
I know nothing about Airheads. K75Ss are my thing.
The "north" of $46,000 for parts...dealer cost or retail? Because the R90S crankshaft list for $1,963.00, flywheel $461.00, camshaft $461.00, short block $2,819.00 and fuel tank (primed only) $1,193.00. So add the frame that's $2,173.55 and $1,600 for the wheels and $1,346 for rear drive...now at $12,016 for 8 parts with over 1,600 more parts to go...Say we got 4 days in labor (not counting the hours involved in actually ordering parts)...going with two techs at $90.00 an hour each times the 64 tech hours equals $5,760.00 labor and of course estimated misc. shop supplies at $2,600.00 (5%). All said with tongue-in-cheek, but I do wonder what a project like this would cost if one wanted to take it on as a private individual? Plus now you'd need to find a good painter since there's no more painted parts in the pipeline. Did enjoy the project and ability it showed.
Rinty
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We don't know whether Max meant retail list cost of the parts, or their dealer cost. In any event, all the costs, including labour, will be inside their corporation, i.e. pre-tax, and it may be that I.R.S. rules also allow these costs to be deducted from their gross profits, which would result in a cost reduction.
It would be interesting to know Max's net cost, as their accountants would book it, and also, the cost to an individual (although the question of an individual building something like this is admittedly academic).
Yes, mostly academic Rinty, I agree. However, should I ever win a Mega Lottery, say in the net $135,000,000 area...I might consider doing a build like this for "fun"! LOL...
AntonLargiader
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A short block includes the crank and some other stuff, so you're double-dipping a bit.
OTOH the exhaust system is well over $1000 and the forks are about $1000 per side, and there's still the transmission so the expensive items aren't over yet.
All that said, I'm guessing the $46k was retail.
classicvw
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I'd agree the $46,000 was retail. I dont think MAX would want to advertise their cost for a couple reasons. #1 people would feel like MAX was thumbing their nose at the regular people, who couldn't build it "wholesale", and its a bigger bang, a bigger, more expensive deal at retail.
I would also guess that it couldn't be called a 2013, as a vehicle built with "old" parts couldn't meet 2013 safety and EPA regulations.
I would also guess that it couldn't be called a 2013, as a vehicle built with "old" parts couldn't meet 2013 safety and EPA regulations.
Rinty
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With a number that large, you wouldn't have to think twice about doing it.
But the interesting question for me, is what would a high net worth collector do with, say $100,000? Is he going to build a brand new R90S, or would he put the money towards acquiring something like an R37?
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