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    Quote Originally Posted by jconway607 View Post
    I wish some company, like Twinmax, would buy out his patent, and go into regular production.
    I doubt he has a patent since other units long in the market work on the same principle. The difference might be the needed damping and averaging to provide a bar graph that changes slowly.

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    Bought a Twin-Max years ago and it works and works well. I wouldn't throw money away on some new gadget that does the same thing. Bottom line, buy a Twin-Max.
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    I have a U tube of aquarium line stapled to a board, with a little water in it and I use little balls of cotton in the end near where I plug into the throttle bodies to damp it. Works fine. If you buy a board, air line, some connectors, staples and even cotton balls and all it might cost you $20 bucks. No need for anything else. simple, indestructible, cheap. Only way to go wrong is let the line hit the exhaust, and then you just get more line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalRider View Post
    Thats not even an equitable comparison.

    I agree! It was intended as humour and to make but not prove a point. Time moves on. New things come along. That sort of thing.


    Not being your average lemming/consumer, I'm not about to throw away my Twin Max and run out and buy a Harmonizer that will not provide me with a smoother running engine.

    I'm sure only a lemming would suggest you throw away your Twin Max. But that is not what I said. I never throw out tools even when I have a better one. Just ask my wife!

    Accurate? Prove it! Accuracy? What accuracy do you need...its not like you are setting up x millibars at X RPM. You want both cylinders to be the same...thats all.

    I agree! It's all about balance. It's funny you should say that though because the Harmonizer allows you to set up you TBs at x millibars at X RPM. And it displays them both very clearly on an easy to read quartz display.

    If you really want precision, you'd get one measurement sensor with one hose and a Y splitter with a selector valve and switch left to right to left, etc.

    Or two measurement sensors. One for each cylinder. Like a Twin Max or a Harmonizer. But what you do with that signal and how you display it does count for something IMO.

    The Twin Max is easy to use and is compact enough to fit in my luggage when I head to Europe to tune my bike there.

    Sorry, no advantage there. I've held and used a TwinMax and a Harmonizer. The latter is lighter and smaller. So not sure what your point is.

    As for the needle bouncing, you want it to. That is how it works. You're not looking for any particular reading, just a centered position of a quickly swinging needle.

    No, I don't want it to bounce. My personal preference (and this really is all just personal preference isn't it?) is a steady display that clearly shows where center (in balance) is and not a needle swinging back and forth with a knob to dampen this action.


    I'd bet you if I used either to tune an engine, you could not tell the difference. Want to take me up on that bet; I need the money.

    I was not making any claims about the end result. I am simply saying that in my opinion (worth what it costs you) the Harmonizer is a superior tuning instrument.
    Before you tear into other poster's opinions it is always good practice to review the OP's question. And what he was asking was which do we think is the BEST tool. Wouldn't it be easier to just say you like the TwinMax and think it does the job just fine for you? That would answer the question...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jconway607 View Post
    I have been down this road myself. I have a Twinmax. Simple to use, my 96 1100 seems to run very well using it, and most critically, it is a tool that is very easy to obtain.

    Contrast that to the Harmonizer. Great tool, so everyone claims. I'm sure it is. But...VERY hard to get your hands on. Made by one guy in his garage. He has no email to contact him. You never know when he is going to run a few up. Every time this issue comes up I see that same link posted, like that just solves the problem. Anyone notice that that posting is from June of 2011. We are coming up on 2014, folks. And it is always the same situation: "He's out of them at the moment, but supposed to make some more soon." How could you tell he was out? From the 2011 post? Ridiculous. How do you know when he is going to make any more? You can't contact him. I wish some company, like Twinmax, would buy out his patent, and go into regular production. This is a long rant, but I say that anyone who blithely tells someone like the OP to, "Go buy a Harmonizer," hasn't tried to buy one lately. It appears to be next to impossible. And believe me, I've tried. Now everyone tell me how simple it is to get one, that they had no problem. Okay,... give me his email, give me his phone number, give me his postal address. Then I too can hand over my $140 for this miracle tool.
    Yeah I think the last ones shipped last spring. They do come up for sale in the flea market on ADV and other sites now and again. If you follow the thread over on ADV the inventor is going through some personal hardships right now making the production of more product impossible. There are a lot of frustrated would be buyers out there and that is a shame. Again, if you follow the thread you know all this.

    But anyway, the OP is just asking for opinions on the best tool out there and I think the Harmonizer is. In the last line of my post I said it's a great tool if you're willing to wait. Perhaps I could have been more clear that they are not available right now and Grok has not been regularly updating his situation. But the first post in his thread is pretty clear.

    Subscribing to the thread is the best way to know when and if they become available again. I just got lucky I guess. Heard about it, read about it, ordered one and got it right away.
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    Well since you mentioned "the best" tool... There's the Vacuummate. http://www.tecmate.com/d_vacuummate.php

    It's what the professionals use, but you'll pay a bit more of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwnomad View Post
    Well since you mentioned "the best" tool... There's the Vacuummate. http://www.tecmate.com/d_vacuummate.php

    It's what the professionals use, but you'll pay a bit more of course.
    Nice tool! I have a Tecmate "Optimate" 7A Odyssey battery charger. They make nice stuff. Expensive yes but your grand kids will be happy you bought them.
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    If not twinmax?

    What is a TecMate TS-111 CarbMate Synchronizer? Anyone use it? Looks to sync two vacuum lines. Available from big internet marketer (or a river in S America?) with 15 very good reviews. Anyone have experience? $95 shipped and no analog dial. See it at
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...e+%2Caps%2C374
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    Quote Originally Posted by happy wanderer View Post
    Yeah I think the last ones shipped last spring. They do come up for sale in the flea market on ADV and other sites now and again. If you follow the thread over on ADV the inventor is going through some personal hardships right now making the production of more product impossible. There are a lot of frustrated would be buyers out there and that is a shame. Again, if you follow the thread you know all this..
    Well, I have to apologize to the group. The most recent post on that 79 page thread in ADV Rider is actually from 10-5-13. Looks like a lot of people have been following it for two years in hopes of buying one. Of course at the end of it all, the result is the same: none available at this time. And I agree, the OP wanted to know the best tool, it apparently is the Harmonizer. Not much debate from anyone, including me, on that point. I guess this guy Grok has some personal issues going on that don't seem to be getting resolved very quickly. Myself, I wasted two+ riding seasons restoring my "dream" airhead that I planned to ride, only to quickly sell it. Now I just enjoy actually riding my trusty oilhead, not constantly waiting for parts or special tools. If a tool isn't available, I move on, find something that is out there, and which works reasonably well. I'm just saying that the OP may want to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhudson View Post
    What is a TecMate TS-111 CarbMate Synchronizer? Anyone use it? Looks to sync two vacuum lines. Available from big internet marketer (or a river in S America?) with 15 very good reviews. Anyone have experience? $95 shipped and no analog dial. See it at
    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...e+%2Caps%2C374
    Yup, I'm using it on my R90/6, dead simple to use and I'm happy with it. YMMV

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    Resurrecting an old thread for a bit of news

    The Harmonizer is now available through Beemer Boneyard. They have been available recently on ADVrider where I ordered mine a moth or so ago and got it in a few days. Grok seems to be stable with supply and I think the fact that they are now being sold through Beemer Boneyard is testament to that.

    Snookers (below) - sorry for throwing you for a loop with an old thread, but I guess we can throw one more check mark behind the twin max.

    I made this last year and got good (but tedious) results with it:


    I'm looking forward to putting the Harmonizer up against it this spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zblue View Post

    Hello, Now that I have retired and I have more time to perform the regular maintenance on my Motorcycles. I used to do a lot of my own work and had Carb sticks at one time but they since have vanished. I have looked at a lot of carb sync tools and most would work but I am interested in what has worked for you. One that you would recommend for the RT1100. The RT is my third BMW and I hope not my last BMW. Thanks Bob

    Bob....I have been using the Twin-Max for my 1100RT.......it works as it should. How do I know this?.....my bike dosn't surge....at all
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    Well there you go.....guess I should have read when the OP started this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxcrider View Post
    Resurrecting an old thread for a bit of news

    The Harmonizer is now available through Beemer Boneyard

    http://www.beemerboneyard.com/harmonizer2.html
    Thanks for the update. It's good to know they can now be easily bought, for those that want one. I know they are a good tool, but for me, I just lost interest over the years in trying to get one, and now plan to just keep using my Twinmax for that job. If I come across a spare $140 to put into my bike, I will add another $60 to it and get a AF-Xied chip. I believe that will make much more of a difference in the smoothness of the engine that any slight improvement I would get from the cash outlay for the Harmonizer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jconway607 View Post
    ...plan to just keep using my Twinmax for that job. If I come across a spare $140 to put into my bike, I will add another $60 to it and get a AF-Xied chip. I believe that will make much more of a difference in the smoothness of the engine that any slight improvement I would get from the cash outlay for the Harmonizer.
    If you get bored and feel like comparing them someday, I'm just a bit up the road.

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