+1 Ponch.But for example 100*F with humide factor feels like 115-120*F.You can sit in the shed of a big tree,doing nothing and the swed just pouring down on your face and chest.Big lakes effect.
Steve
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2013 R1200RT....motor oil question...
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+1 Ponch.But for example 100*F with humide factor feels like 115-120*F.You can sit in the shed of a big tree,doing nothing and the swed just pouring down on your face and chest.Big lakes effect.
Steve
It doesn't get that hot in Canada. Come to hell and sit in traffic.
39C is hot no matter where one is - even in Canada.
And I've been in 42C degree heat numerous times in interior BC.
ponch1
Ponch
39C is hot no matter where one is - even in Canada.
And I've been in 42C degree heat numerous times in interior BC.
I've seen 119 on the freeway and it can go 60+ days of 100+. It usually 100+ from June through the end of September, with the occasional day might be under 100 if we get rain. If you've ridden in that daily which I have, it beats the hell out of the oil and rider.
deilenberger
A bozo on the bus
Since the thread seems to have drifted a bit.. one point:
Mechanical equipment doesn't care about humidity with temperature. If it's 105F and 10% humidity in AZ and 105F and 90% humidity in NJ - the OIL in the engine is still going to be the same temperature. Mechanical equipment doesn't sweat.
Just thought I'd mention that.
105F in Reno stuck in traffic a few weeks ago was still quite uncomfortable on my R1200R (OBMWC..) and I watched the oil temperature gauge climb to where it had never been before - 3 bars above "normal".. cooled right off once I started moving.
Mechanical equipment doesn't care about humidity with temperature. If it's 105F and 10% humidity in AZ and 105F and 90% humidity in NJ - the OIL in the engine is still going to be the same temperature. Mechanical equipment doesn't sweat.
Just thought I'd mention that.
105F in Reno stuck in traffic a few weeks ago was still quite uncomfortable on my R1200R (OBMWC..) and I watched the oil temperature gauge climb to where it had never been before - 3 bars above "normal".. cooled right off once I started moving.
I was only correctly your statement that 100F is a rarity in Canada - not entering into a contest of which area has higher temps. Of course, why there is a hockey team in Phoenix is still beyond me.
ponch1
Ponch
Of course, why there is a hockey team in Phoenix is still beyond me.
Me too. Rumor has it that they are moving to LV. Doesn't matter to me, I am a Rangers fan.
ponch1
Ponch
That's happened to me too, a couple times. I try hard to avoid it. Start smelling different smells and the engine gets noisier. I wonder if the RT-P oil cooler fan is a good idea?
deilenberger
A bozo on the bus
It certainly isn't a bad thing to have, especially if you're in the hell hole of southern AZ (on my trip cross-country last month, I took the northern AZ route, stayed in Winslow - during the day it was 110F+ in Phoenix. Found out my Marsee evaporative vest REALLY works in those conditions.)
BTW - I finally started shutting the engine off it the light looked like it would be more then a minute or so. That actually dropped the temperature shown on the cluster a bar or two. Las Vegas wasn't much better, but I found it easier to keep moving by making big rectangles turning right on red whenever a light changed on me. Got to see a lot of downtown that way..
kthflieger
New member
+1 about the oil article mentioned by DPmonk. Since that piece showed good numbers for Mobile1, I have been using that. Buyer beware however, I have found as much as an $8/qt price difference between buying it at my mc dealer vs. buying it at my local auto parts store.
ponch1
Ponch
It's even cheaper at Walmart.
ponch1
Ponch
Freely available, meaning free. That's my understanding and that's why they publish a API spec. They can recommend their own oil, but they can't say it has to be used.
ponch1
Ponch
It certainly isn't a bad thing to have, especially if you're in the hell hole of southern AZ (on my trip cross-country last month, I took the northern AZ route, stayed in Winslow - during the day it was 110F+ in Phoenix. Found out my Marsee evaporative vest REALLY works in those conditions.)
BTW - I finally started shutting the engine off it the light looked like it would be more then a minute or so. That actually dropped the temperature shown on the cluster a bar or two. Las Vegas wasn't much better, but I found it easier to keep moving by making big rectangles turning right on red whenever a light changed on me. Got to see a lot of downtown that way..
It gets hot here in the summer and if you are on the roads during rush hour, it's not fun. Someone once said that if they owned hell and arizona, they'd move to hell and rent out arizona. Something like that. Come October 1 it's below 100 for months and the winters here are amazing. Much better than in NJ.
I suppose if I wanted perfect weather I'd move to Santa Cruz.
lkchris
Active member
So, people who don't need special oil have to pay for it, but if it's special it's free?
Freely available for you to purchase makes more sense.
ponch1
Ponch
The point is that they can't say you have to use Castrol SAF-XO. They can recommend it, but have to give a specification, like GL-5 or 80w-90 or whatever.
If it is GL 5 Synthetic-You are right on.No mather who produces it.Standard fits---goes in.
Thumbs up .....way to go.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++1!!!!!According to a web search Castrol Syntrax is available at Auto Zone for $10/32 oz bottle. FWIW
And, you're right about enforcement of the MM act. I used to own a Kia Sorrento and when it came time to service the transmission I discovered that you could only use Kia transmission fluid. It is specially formulated and nothing else works. A clear and obvious violation of federal law, but nonetheless that's the way it is.
lkchris
Active member
They can and they do say you have to use the product and it's legal to do so as long as you or your independent mechanic have access to it.
It's not exclusive specification that's the problem, it would be exclusive availability. The latter is a restraint of trade. The former isn't. I suspect the price should be reasonable and it is.
It's simply ridiculous to think somebody is getting away with a legal violation.
Don't think there's any guarantee that Castrol Syntrax from Europe is same as Castrol Syntrax from PepBoys. I imagine the PepBoys bottles indicate "made in USA" and that that means it's not the same. This is an exclusive formula for BMW (and formerly Land Rover during the BMW ownership era) and I suspect you could check at a BMW car dealer, where the mantra is still "lifetime." At the BMW car dealer there are two versions, i.e. limited slip and not. A formula exclusively for BMW does not fit the usual PepBoys marketing strategy. Syntrax is simply a trademark registered by Castrol and that registration does not obligate them to put the same stuff in every bottle with that label.
It's not exclusive specification that's the problem, it would be exclusive availability. The latter is a restraint of trade. The former isn't. I suspect the price should be reasonable and it is.
It's simply ridiculous to think somebody is getting away with a legal violation.
Don't think there's any guarantee that Castrol Syntrax from Europe is same as Castrol Syntrax from PepBoys. I imagine the PepBoys bottles indicate "made in USA" and that that means it's not the same. This is an exclusive formula for BMW (and formerly Land Rover during the BMW ownership era) and I suspect you could check at a BMW car dealer, where the mantra is still "lifetime." At the BMW car dealer there are two versions, i.e. limited slip and not. A formula exclusively for BMW does not fit the usual PepBoys marketing strategy. Syntrax is simply a trademark registered by Castrol and that registration does not obligate them to put the same stuff in every bottle with that label.
Basically,that is what I am talking abouth.
You can use ANY oil if you are in specs recommended.There is no holly god's oil for our bikes.Just got to fallow recommended specs.BMW recommending his own oil is a simple BS/busyness/.BTW why don't you check out a real oil definitions from first hand on internet,coming from oil experts,cheef enginers at MOBIL orSHELL and/or CASTROL itself.???And again,check out trucks oil or HD fleet oils what they are saying of those oils.You will be supriced!!HD oils are the most durable ouls compared to oils from the shelf.BEST oils available today.
BRGDS,
Steve
