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Its the second intermission and the refs are restating the rules to the contestants.
You hockey fans...........second intermission?. It reminds me of Tolkien's Hobbits and their second breakfast.
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Its the second intermission and the refs are restating the rules to the contestants.
You hockey fans...........second intermission?. It reminds me of Tolkien's Hobbits and their second breakfast.
In my circumstance, it was the Service Manager, Kent, at Schlossmann's BMW of Milwaukee, that went to bat for me. My '08 R1200GS blew the Rear ESA shock seals, out of warranty, both in years and mileage. This happened on a trip south and I had the shock replaced at Baton Rouge BMW. Three months later, when having service at Schlossmannn's, Kent asked for the repair paperwork and said he would see if he could get anything from BMW. In the end, BMW gave me a 70% rebate on the repair bill of ~$2200. Also, I am the 2nd owner of the R1200GS, so you know where I'll be buying my next moto and having the current one serviced....
Sorry for the thread de-rail!
Absolutely not interested in this organization becoming an advocacy group.
Absolutely not interested in this organization becoming an advocacy group.
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David posted this about his bike "BMW says it has 3 cracked pistons around oil ring area. I am still waiting on new short motor to be shipped out from Germany. They cannot expained why it has happened. They are NOT UNSTOPPABLE. Is it unreasonable to expect a loan bike??? Been back to the dealers 3 times now and over 11 weeks. I expect an extension on warranty and I guess that will be another battle with BMW. I will have 3 to 4 months without a bike that I have been paying registration and insurance on and the warranty period running out"...............
Now to the current case. BMW offers a 3 year - 36,000 mile warranty to protect against defects in materials and workmanship. Honoring that warranty for three years or 36,000 miles is their duty.
"The discussion is about having someone who will act as an advocate without getting involved in the various standard every day threads."
Do you see this advocate responsibility to be performed in a paid or volunteer status?
What is your estimate of time this function will require on an annual basis?
Wayne Koppa
Grayling, MI
Life # 71449
"The discussion is about having someone who will act as an advocate without getting involved in the various standard every day threads."
Do you see this advocate responsibility to be performed in a paid or volunteer status?
What is your estimate of time this function will require on an annual basis?
Wayne Koppa
Grayling, MI
Life # 71449
I agree with your comments, but regarding this: Wasn't there a fellow who posted in the MOA forum that BMW wouldn't cover the repair of a fuel pump because his mileage was too low? 2000 miles on an 8 month old GTL I think? Just saying. It's really getting absurd on both sides of it and to be honest, the MOA isn't in a position to rectify much. Again, the ombudsman (my use of the word) is a good idea. May be BMW would be more likely to be sympathetic if laundry wasn't aired, but there needs to be something in place that helps advocate so we don't get to this point. The thing is, once you get a lawyer or file something with the state, BMW will dig in their heels as much as they would in this case. May be someone can come up with a procedure manual for dealing with BMWNA (with footnotes and glossary of course). That would be a very German thing to do.
I feel bad for Randy and anyone else that doesn't get reasonable satisfaction in cases like this. I hope he and others like him get some satisfaction or at least peace of mind.
Several persons here have been having a serious conversation that contained various worthy points of view (some I agreed with, others not so much & some with no bearing on the thread but OK too) while a few seem to revile in being members of the "above the subject" crowd, seeing this as a nonsensical discussion that they are (I wonder why?) willing to take the time to read but unwilling to offer credibility too the comments of others. Even my "curmugeonly" self finds it demeaning to do so.
This IS a "forum" after all, -like's been said , if it doesn't suit you, walk away from the mouse...
To my knowledge no one at any time has stated they want to turn the group into an advocacy group. The discussion is about having someone who will act as an advocate without getting involved in the various standard every day threads. .