# Thread: As The Crow Flies?

1. ## As The Crow Flies?

Because of a little discussion regarding mileage accomplished in a year, I thought that I would introduce this notion: Last year at the rally in Sedalia I posed a question to the Long Distance award people. This question was regarding distance traveled to the rally. Well, it was interesting to note that it was determined by the "As The Crow Flies" philosophy. As the crow flies? My bike does not fly and it has no pontoons to navigate waterways but, unlike the IBA, the MOA still seems to cling to this bird notion for the long distance (to the rally) award. If I am incorrect in thinking this then please correct me. However, if I am correct, please explain the logic. - Bob

2. As the crow flies? I thought I'd heard that the distances are measured by something like google maps using one of the features like shortest distance or avoid highways??

3. Don't they have a North American Tour award? For those who take the circuitous 'scenic' route to the rally.

4. Originally Posted by RGuy
Don't they have a North American Tour award? For those who take the circuitous 'scenic' route to the rally.
Yes...plus an International Tour Award.

5. Originally Posted by 20774
As the crow flies? I thought I'd heard that the distances are measured by something like google maps using one of the features like shortest distance or avoid highways??
nope. So,maybe someone with the 'inside scoop' will chime in eh?

6. Originally Posted by Paul_F

ho ho Paul!!

7. Yup, in a straight line...whoda thunk it?

http://digital.turn-page.com/i/72534/117

8. Originally Posted by 20774
Yup, in a straight line...whoda thunk it?

http://digital.turn-page.com/i/72534/117
So, I've been wrong before but, where's the logic? My straight line to, let's say Boston, might be 400 miles but because there's this water thing in between, I really ride 700 miles. So the person riding through the desert trumps the poor ol' sod that has to go around a waterway. If this is such a great plan to determine a long distance to the rally award why doesn't the IB org think the same? Personally, I think that IB is the most realistic (AND factual) way to do it. - Bob

9. While it may not make sense now, it does if you think back to a time before the computer and the GPS, when all you had was a paper map. Of course, if you've not old enough to have known a time before the computer and the GPS...

10. Originally Posted by Texpaul
While it may not make sense now, it does if you think back to a time before the computer and the GPS, when all you had was a paper map. Of course, if you've not old enough to have known a time before the computer and the GPS...
jeesh.... even when I had a paper map I could still use the logic unknown to a bird. Not sure about your meaning exactly (tad slow sometimes) but I think that you're giving the decision makers about this a bit of a poke. BTW, my first line of geographic utility is still the paper map. Even at a time when paper maps were the only tool, any damn fool could tell that the rider circumnavigating waterways and mountains just might have a longer ride than that rider racing across route 50.... which really isn't very challenging...... as long as you have a full tank of gas. - Bob

11. Originally Posted by Texpaul
While it may not make sense now, it does if you think back to a time before the computer and the GPS, when all you had was a paper map.
Heaven help us that we change with the times.... the Ambassadors might fall off of their stools.

Originally Posted by pffog
The reward should be the trip, not your name on a piece of paper anyway. I do things the way I do for pleasure, not recognition.

12. ## The "Standard"

This year we will be using Google Maps as our standard for appropriate mileage awards.

The idea is to make sure that there are no surprises to those going after the awards (I know that i only like surprises at Christmas).

Yes, if you do believe you are in the running for an award you will have to check in at the Awards Booth in the MOA Building. Current award "contestants" will be posted at that booth for your information. We will have a laptop handy (I am bringing my MacBook in my saddle bag, let's just hope it survives Kansas heat and Nebraska pot holes and we've got solid WiFi) so that you can watch us verify our validation of your mileage.

That said, for "Long Distance" awards you will need to show us your driver license (just like voting or getting a speeding ticket in some states). Other awards will require us to see things like the motorcycle's registration / appropriate birth certificates / trip logs (including a few things like gas and hotel receipts) for validation. Do watch for a more indepth article coming in a future issue of the BMW ON and the Rally Page for details of award requirements.

I know what it feels like having to wait for an announcement or "screen projection" of individual award winners, and I also know what it feels like to "know better" after an announcement, so we want to be open, honest and fair.

Don

Don Hamblin
Awards Co-Chair
Beemers, Bigfoot and Blue Skies - 2013 MOA Rally

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