View Poll Results: Have you had at least ONE fuel strip fail?

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  • YES - 2005 model year

    42 5.88%
  • YES - 2006 model year

    30 4.20%
  • YES - 2007 model year

    86 12.04%
  • YES - 2008 model year

    99 13.87%
  • YES - 2009 model year

    137 19.19%
  • YES - 2010 model year

    54 7.56%
  • YES - 2011 model year (R1200R only I think..)

    22 3.08%
  • YES - Multiple fuel strip failures - please note model/year in a comment

    57 7.98%
  • NO - fuel strip failure. Please note year/model in a comment

    231 32.35%
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  1. #466
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjohn72 View Post
    had4 mine replaced a couple weeks ago, intermittent on and off with no accuracy. now it works and thinks it is empty with a little less than what should be half a tank according to mileage...
    Our '08 RS had it replaced and it thinks it's full with less than half a tank...
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    20,000 miles on third strip

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    fialure #2 appears to have arrived

    09 RT, first failure June 2011 at about 6500 mi. Replaced under warranty (duh). Second failure 2 days ago at about 68,000 mi. (Guess I was lucky to have gotten 5+ years and 60,000 miles out of the replacement.) Pulled out of driveway with about 1/2 tank and range showing ~140 mi. In the space of a few seconds, fuel level dropped to 'non-existent' and range showed zip. Interestingly, after a 20 mile ride and pulling down my steep drive to my garage, fuel level shot back up to full (also inaccurate as I had not added any) and range bounced up to ~290. This is different from my first failure where the fuel indicator never left zero once it failed. Will fill up and see what happens next. Perhaps it will come back to life and give me another 60k.
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    I sure hope I am not jinking myself.

    2011 / R1200RT / 50861 miles never replaced. Do not know if it makes any difference but I only use BP premium and very, very rarely ever park it with less than a full tank.
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    2010 R1200RT - replaced under US Warranty

    Just had it replaced at 96400 miles/154240km. Not sure if this was the first one or not on this bike, as I am not the original owner.
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    replacement completed-no optimism from dealer about longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by redhededgreg View Post
    09 RT, first failure June 2011 at about 6500 mi. Replaced under warranty (duh). Second failure 2 days ago at about 68,000 mi. (Guess I was lucky to have gotten 5+ years and 60,000 miles out of the replacement.) Pulled out of driveway with about 1/2 tank and range showing ~140 mi. In the space of a few seconds, fuel level dropped to 'non-existent' and range showed zip. Interestingly, after a 20 mile ride and pulling down my steep drive to my garage, fuel level shot back up to full (also inaccurate as I had not added any) and range bounced up to ~290. This is different from my first failure where the fuel indicator never left zero once it failed. Will fill up and see what happens next. Perhaps it will come back to life and give me another 60k.
    As stated above, I got 60,000+ miles on first replacement before the recent failure. In looking over my OCD records, seems my first failure occurred at 3600 miles but the replacement was done at 6000 miles when i had scheduled service during a x-country trip. Repair done yesterday under the extended warranty and service guy remarked to the effect 'Wow, you got 60,000 miles out of that replacement? That's gotta be a record.' He went on to say that it was not unusual for them to see guys bringing their bikes back in 3 or 4 months for another after the replacement fails.

    Me? I'm hoping for another 5 years and 60k out of this one.

    I'm sure it's posted elsewhere in this lengthy thread but just in case it's buried. Here's a link to the service bulletin extending to 12 years warranty coverage of this item for 2005-2013 R and K bikes: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/c...56106-7277.pdf
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  8. #473

    5 so far

    2012 R1200R with about 29k on it, I bought the bike through a dealer, but later met the PO and got the full story. The PO told me he had the original fuel strip, plus 3 replacements. It got replaced a 4th time when the dealer had it. That strip failed within 1000 miles, and its been bad for about 4,000 miles since. I need to get it in.

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    I realize this will seem repetitive - but.. haven't seen any mention of reports to DOT/NHTSA, so:

    You can find the instructions right here: http://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread....l=1#post858929

    I'd suggest reporting each and every failure. Lesser brands have been mandated by DOT to issue a recall to correct this exact sort of fuel-readout failure, since it would obviously be dangerous if it failed on a highway with heavy traffic and you can't coast off to the side of the road.

    I think the only way that BMW will actually resolve the fuel strip problem IS if DOT requires it. According to a knowledgeable mechanic I was talking to - his feeling was with the correct float assembly - and perhaps a bit of intermediate circuitry - a float assembly could be made to operate with our existing displays and on-board-computer. BMW hasn't been motivated to do this. As in most corporate cultures - economic decisions seem to be the rule. The way to make BMW want to fix (not simply warranty new defective product) the problem is to make it economically attractive to them. A mandated recall would seem to be the key to doing that. Eventually the 12 year extended warranty WILL run out - and knowing BMW owners - a lot of these bikes will still be serving their owners at that point. If there isn't a recall - the warranty conclusion will hit people right in their wallets - and it's not that far off for the first year fuel-strip bikes.
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    About to get another fuel strip. This one just completely died. It shows no gas at all and the little gas pump plus yellow triangle are flashing. Meanwhile I just filled up so that's not real. This will be the third fix with approximately four hours wait for each fix. My bill out rate is about $250 per hour so I estimate that I have lost about $3000 just waiting for BMW to ineptly repair a problem.

    Hey BMW, fix this damn problem.
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    Fifth failure yesterday, one year after last replacement

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    Dealer told me BMW now warranties them for 12 years, so no cost this time!
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    I hope you reported all five per post #474

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    '09 RT Fuel strip

    bought used Oct '16, original fuel strip replaced already, and twice after fill up it won't register any gas for a short while, then starts working again. Then, a few weeks ago, I ran out of gas with the gauge reading over 1/4 full. I now reset the trip odometer at each fill up.
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    I'll report an even odder occurrence. I'm on fuel strip #3 or 4 on my '12 R1200R. Would have to open my notes to determine the number - but it doesn't really matter. On the R1200R - I noticed that the strip goes directly under the fuel filler hole in the tank. If one stuck in a nozzle without a vapor recovery boot (which appears to be a NJ only thing now - after my trip across the US and back) far enough you would hit the fuel strip with the nozzle. When the last one failed, I chatted a bit with a very savvy tech at my FLD about putting a splash guard over the strip below the filler hole. He came up with using a small panel cut out of an oil bottle (figuring it's probably pretty fuel resistant) and holding it to the strip using a few tie-wraps.

    All was well and good - except the new strip exhibited a behavior I'd not seen before in my history of 10-12 failed strips (had an '07 R1200R too - it got a strip per year minimum).. when the tank showed about 60 miles remaining - the fuel level indicator would suddenly drop to empty and the warning light came on. It wasn't enough of a bother to make me take it back, so I'd been living with it for the past 6-7 months.

    On my trip from NJ to CA - suddenly the strip started behaving "normally" - and actually quite accurately. It stopped blanking the fuel level at 60 miles remaining - and would count down right to 5 miles remaining (I finally found gas - whew!) It's been working fine ever since.

    It appears something about riding out of NJ made it decide to behave. I did find chains of fuel stations in the corn-belt states that had non-ethanol gasoline (does anyone else find this a tad ironic?) so maybe that had something to do with it - but what is beyond my comprehension. The bike and rider did enjoy the booze-free gas - bike runs a lot better on it.

    Knocking on oak-grain-formica(tm) I just hope it stays this way for a long long time..
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