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AMA Posts Ethanol Alert!
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lkchris
Active member
The only reason it is added to fuel is so that octane is enhanced. It’s the only thing now legal, since tetraethyl lead and mtbe are banned.
pglaves
#13338
If that were actually true, then how come I was able to purchase AKI 93 ethanol free gas at the station this afternoon?
azgman
Addicted to curves
Octane boosting is one of the reasons it is used. It is cheaper than alternative ingredients, so that is another. It also was touted as a "greener" substance than MTBE or Lead. Is it really?
riderr1150gsadv
Well-known member
Ethanol can be made from other sources then corn, which is also used to feed cattle and hogs. Wonder why your bacon is more expensive??
Brazil is pre eminent in ethanol production and we should have followed their lead instead of reinventing the wheel. Like Paul said, just follow the money trail....
Brazil is pre eminent in ethanol production and we should have followed their lead instead of reinventing the wheel. Like Paul said, just follow the money trail....
How true. Once any compliance is mandated, the costs thereof get passed on to the final consumer. Some may be surprised! What! I thought it was free! The octane boost that is. The debate remains untouched.
I too put nothing but pure gas in everything other than the cages. Very delicate treading around the topic as, it's political. Also, the change over every spring and autumn to various blends for every different area of the country figures into what kind of gas you get wherever you may travel. Not to mention the science on the topic concerning the actual costs of bringing ethanol online, both to the environment and to water supplies. There are residual costs in the production of ethanol. Not to mention who does the studies and is paid by whom. FWIW, google and ogle.
I too put nothing but pure gas in everything other than the cages. Very delicate treading around the topic as, it's political. Also, the change over every spring and autumn to various blends for every different area of the country figures into what kind of gas you get wherever you may travel. Not to mention the science on the topic concerning the actual costs of bringing ethanol online, both to the environment and to water supplies. There are residual costs in the production of ethanol. Not to mention who does the studies and is paid by whom. FWIW, google and ogle.
Bingo! We have a winner, that's all folks!
lkchris
Active member
I’d doubt the credibility of your station first of all, but perhaps their supplier uses something exotic as suggested in article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiknock_agent
The majors at least are required to blend a certain percentage ethanol.
lee
Debbie's Servant
87 and 91 AKI without ethanol is common in Iowa and it's clearly labeled on the pump.
pglaves
#13338
Same here in Wisconsin.
This 'threat' and the AMA's scare tactics is old news that doesn't appear to have come true. The original post is 7 years old?!
Yet, still we debate.
We need an oil thread, or some final drive failures.
I don't debate fuel or oil. I just follow the specifications. I usually run AKI 87 in my K75s and our G310s because that is what is specified. I did just spend 20 cents a gallon extra to put non-alcohol fuel in the car because I expect to park it for a few months.
But, when I read a statement offered in an authoritative manner which I know to be untrue I shall challenge it every time if it would make a difference to somebody. If it is just fluff I usually ignore it.
greenwald
New member
lee
Debbie's Servant
Is this always true?
The last two times we were in Ontario none of the Shell 91 pumps were marked as ethanol free.
According to the Shell website, yes - "0% ethanol at every station in Canada". They might not publicise it on the pump. Also, it has the name "Nitro+" so it must be good.
https://www.shell.ca/en_ca/motorists/my-fuels/shell-v-power-nitro-plus-premium-gasoline.html
pglaves
#13338
In fact, I'm coining a new tourist slogan..."Come for the gas - stay for the beer".
Good advice. The fuel is more expensive north of the wall, but every time I burn a tank I have significant higher miles per gallon. Not enough to offset the cost but enough to tell me that the swill I get south of the border is an inferior fuel. I usually drink Scotch so cannot comment specifically on the beer, but do note that both Scotland and Canada are in some manner related to the former British Empire.
lee
Debbie's Servant
Thanks
