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    Quote Originally Posted by f14rio View Post
    not sure being able to do u turns at 2 mph with your feet off the ground makes you a safer hiway/touring/ whatever rider
    I'm positive it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    I'm positive it doesn't.
    and i would argue that overall bike handling skills can never be a bad thing. the increased comfort one has at 2mph can translate directly to overall confidence at higher speeds. ymmv.
    nd if you take a class that is specifically designed to work on your low speed handling skills (police-related stuff)- why would it be a surprise that you end up spending tim working on low speed handling skills??

    what- you thought you'd get to play with the lights and the sirens?
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    The rest of the story;

    After I took the course, wife and i went on a couples ride for a weekend.

    One evening the group decided to take a ride before dinner to a nice place, on the way the leader took a wrong turn and we ended up on a single track dirt road with very steep/deep ditches on either side.

    We all needed to turn around, we were the only couple able to do it in one shot feet on the pegs and two up.

    The rest of the group had to dismount their pillions and make multiple tries before reversing direction.

    IMHO the cost of the course paid for itself that night.

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    Yes, being able to do a near stop turn around is a skill that helps on tight narrow roads or drives. Then being able to do it at a faster pace may save your bacon some day. I'm not "positive" however it's in my skill set and I use it for fun and real time turnarounds.

    I chuckle waiting on friends who do a three point turn as if they were in a large pickup. Being able to swivel your head and go where you are looking is a practiced skill most can benefit from.
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    Yes practice makes perfect !

    I practice the skill of changing direction at quicker speeds frequently.
    As i get older i am increasingly more aware of limitations, so I take some type of professional rider training every couple of years.

    I always learn something , mostly it's the latest set of bad habits since the last training

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    Quote Originally Posted by f14rio View Post
    that's what they concentrated on...slow speed riding. not sure being able to do u turns at 2 mph with your feet off the ground makes you a safer hiway/touring/ whatever rider
    I think it does. The whole idea of it is slow speed control. Control of the motorcycle.
    Anyone can make the bike go fast. That takes no control, no skill, just an aggressive right hand.
    Making it go slow takes control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14rio View Post
    that's what they concentrated on...slow speed riding. not sure being able to do u turns at 2 mph with your feet off the ground makes you a safer hiway/touring/ whatever rider
    But you could qualify to ride with the Shriners!

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    You could also pass the California motorcycle endorsement test.
    Guess what you have to do on that test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David13 View Post
    You could also pass the California motorcycle endorsement test.
    Guess what you have to do on that test?
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    Ride in circles wearing a funny hat?

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    Figure 8. Funny hat optional. But it might help loosen up the examiner. If it's over your helmet. Don't forget that, or you won't be taking your test today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David13 View Post
    Figure 8. Funny hat optional. But it might help loosen up the examiner. If it's over your helmet. Don't forget that, or you won't be taking your test today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NI5L View Post
    But you could qualify to ride with the Shriners!
    As noted, HD has the motorcycle for this sort of thing.

    In addition, you can apparently stand on the seat and make an entire lap of Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

    All of this sort of thing OBVIOUSLY gets you safely through Deal's Gap, AZ 191, etc. (And it will if you run these speeds)
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    I'll add to Kent's observations: all the bike handling skills in the world won't help if your defensive driving skills are lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NI5L View Post
    Sounds like local LE agencies should look into getting some BMW training for someone to do their maintenance.

    BMW doesn't care if you do your own maintenance as long as you can prove it was done in case of a warranty issue. This was told to me by a dealer near me when I was drooling over a shiny new 2012 RT on his showroom floor.
    Does the BMW warranty cover police "Fleet" vehicles? Usually fleet vehicles are not warranted.

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    As I understand it, here in California, police garages were anointed as "BMW dealers" to be reimbursed for repair costs and purchase parts at cost. Others can correct me if needed.
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