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    BMW Motorrad, GPS, and Dealer POIs

    This should be simple, but doesn’t appear to be unless I’m missing something. BMW sells motorcycles equipped with GPS and maintains dealerships across North America. Seems to me I should be able to go to BMW’s website and download a gpx file with all the NA dealers listed as POIs, with all the relevant data included in the POI—name, address, phone and other contact info, coordinates of course, and other info deemed appropriate or necessary by BMW or the individual dealers. That would only make sense for a company selling GPS-equipped vehicles with a roadside service package.

    But if the above exists, I have yet to find it on the websites for BMW or the individual dealers. I have found independent sites that offer the file, but the two I’ve found require some silly “membership” requirements like posting in their forums at least once a week for three weeks before gaining full access, things like that. And then, once the file is downloaded and opened there are obvious errors in the file.

    So does BMW have a POI file available or not? And if they do, where is it found? And if BMW is asleep at the wheel on this, is there another source that has an ACCURATE POI listing of dealerships?

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    I have not searched for such a file, but did have a GPS with the dealerships supposedly installed. It had Gina's in Iowa City wrong. And Franks in Vermont wrong. But the crowning indignity was that Engle Motors in Kansas City has been in the same location since 1954 and it had them wrong too. Bikes - OK. Geography not so much.
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    NAV VI has a menu selection for dealers in the "Where to" tree. Probably one can thank Garmin's mapping sub-contractor for location errors, they do not do their own maps.

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    Long way to download: Go to www.bmw-motorrad.com, select country, click "Gear and Parts", click on any of the "BMW Motorrad Navigator" versions listed, click the "Downloads" tab, click the "Dealer database" button. Installation instructions are in the downloaded .zip file. There will probably be another update before summer.

    Short way to download: click here -> http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/...nbank_2017.zip

    Might want to grab Dann's POI file of independent BMW shops while you are at it: https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread...=1#post1080194

    Edit: It occurred to me that the installation methods might vary by GPS model, but I only have one GPS to test with. I did check and see that the POI file is the same for various models, and it installed just fine on my zumo 590 using the Garmin POI loader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkraus View Post
    Long way to download: Go to www.bmw-motorrad.com, select country, click "Gear and Parts", click on any of the "BMW Motorrad Navigator" versions listed, click the "Downloads" tab, click the "Dealer database" button. Installation instructions are in the downloaded .zip file. There will probably be another update before summer.

    Short way to download: click here -> http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/...nbank_2017.zip

    Might want to grab Dann's POI file of independent BMW shops while you are at it: https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread...=1#post1080194

    Edit: It occurred to me that the installation methods might vary by GPS model, but I only have one GPS to test with. I did check and see that the POI file is the same for various models, and it installed just fine on my zumo 590 using the Garmin POI loader.
    Now, that right there is some very good and useful information! Thank you! I’ll pull those files later today and do the install on my 590 tonight.

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    Still tinkering with this, but a bit disappointed in the list from the Motorrad side. The download is not specific by region or continent but includes all dealers world-wide, which I really don't need. The file comes down as a .gpi file, which is easily converted online to a .gpx file that Basecamp and my 590 seem to want, but perusing the waypoints shows that basic information like the address and phone# of the shop is missing. The instructions that come with the download reference copying the .gpi file directly to the GPS, but since there are no .gpi files--visible or hidden--so I'm not sure the file would be recognized and used by my 590. I think next step will be to expose the .gpi file as a .csv or xml file and have a look at the raw data. I have a 16x16 .bmp file of the roundel that I'd like to get incorporated as the icon for these points as well.

    Sigh...
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    The .gpi file is a valid POI format for the 590. It is the exact same file I have on my 590, copied to the zumo at \zūmo 590\Internal Storage\POI. If you do not have that folder, you can create it using your computer's file manager. Once in that folder, it will add a BMW logo to the "Where To? screen. To find a dealer I turn on the GPS, touch "Where To?", then the BMW Motorrad roundel, and I get a list of dealers ranked by distance from my location. Pressing the "Searching near" box lets you choose a different starting point.
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    Selecting the top one, I have options to view routes to that location, get more information (the circled "i") or just navigate directly to the dealer.
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    The information option includes the phone number.
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    I think(don't quote me on that) the .gpi format is a compressed form of a .gpx file. The .gpi file does include international dealers, but the file is already pretty small, so converting to another format to edit them out would not be worth the effort.

    I'm not getting these POI's to show up in Basecamp, though the file is visible under Maps->Manage Custom POI's.
    Last edited by lkraus; 01-14-2018 at 04:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider View Post
    , but perusing the waypoints shows that basic information like the address and phone# of the shop is missing. The instructions that come with the download reference copying the .gpi file directly to the GPS,
    On my Nav it looks like Larry's attachment, showing location with a BMW roundel along with the address and phone number.
    All I had to do was copy and paste the file into the POI folder.
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    Thank you, that does indeed work and my 590 now displays the Motorrad option, and the individual dealer listings include address and contact info. Research on one source states that GPI files are “compressed/encrypted files using GPX and/or CSV files as a source”. I need to do more digging on that to see if they can be opened and edited with one of the POI editors. I’d suspect they won’t display in Basecamp until converted back to the source format, and in what tinkering I’ve done that appears to be a lossy conversion.

    My 590 did not have a POI folder so I had to create one.

    Thanks for the help!
    DG
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    Added the List to my Nuvi just for kicks.
    Here's what my my Where To page looks like.

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    Past BMW Bikes: 2011 K1300S, 2003 K1200RS, 1991 K75S, 1987 K75T, 1984 R100RT

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