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    Sciatica Cure?

    I have been dealing with sciatica that has settled in for the past 3 months to become butt pain with occasional leg pain(was a thigh/calf pain 24/7 for several weeks but now allows decent sleep) and seems to have become my future . I hope not, but zero improvement beyond the 3-4 spinal decompressions that got rid of the worst of the leg pain & the PT I do for hips & legs that has restored most of strength in my rt leg. The Chiro says if you looked at my MRI you would say I am fortunate to/unlikely to be able to do the activities I now am performing. These do not include riding my motorcycle any sort of long distance, in fact a long car trip results in several days of recovery and lessening pain. W/O getting into the medical specifics it is typical lumbar issues like disc compression and spinal various stuff.
    I read & am told 95% of sciatica sufferers recover & that the knife is not going to happen when I tell a DR I am walking and sort of active. Until I can get on that bike and ride all day , "in my mind I'm not recovered"!
    Ideas anyone? I'm a big boy so don't need a pat on the back, but this is a tedious problem. Feels sort of like being shot in the butt 24/7 right now and after a several mile walk I gain a limo from hip,leg,butt pain. H-E-L-P!!!!!!!!!
    One of my sons has the book Back Rx, Vijay Vad,M.D. which he says is the source on back pain-guy is a golf/tennis pro DR type. I am also going to buy a "TENS" type electric stim machine as I do that at Chiro and it does help with pain. Question becomes just how much $ to get one that is going to do the job?
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    Have you been to a real orthopedic surgeon to review your MRI and/or x-rays, or just the chiro? There may be a simple surgical option, although unless it's fairly cut and dried, so to speak, it may not be what would fix your issue.

    I had a blown disk where an actual chunk was stuck in a nerve canal that caused me all sorts of issues with the sciatic nerve. My surgery was pretty simple, and the relief instantaneous.

    The stretching exercises as well as some of the abdominal and lower back muscle exercises provided by the physical therapist helped a lot. Those coupled with walking helped me quite a bit as well.
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    While I have been to a "real one" in the past,like 10 yrs ago, my chiro said he can assure me(I am going to a new neurologist soon as being referred by my chiro) that once the Dr hears my level of activity they will not want to cut. I also went to a "real one" @ U. KY Sports Medicine Clinic 8/12/11 & was referred for PT which I do plus the chiro. I guess I am too good to help for now? I have had x-rays & MRI and am leaving out all the lengthly stuff from those sources. It is a long list.
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    I've been dealing with it for 3 weeks. Brutal pain. Chiro helps a bit, as do ice packs, but I can't live like this. MRI in about 10 days...
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    Where to start? I'm 53 and have been dealing with back problems since I 28. An on job injury as a Firefighter. Had the Joe Montana (as it was called at that time) surgery which was a L4-L5 disc removal (Lumbar Laminectomy). I was good for 10 years untill I tripped over some debris at a fire and bulged 2 more discs (L5-S1). I live with the pain and have to have tune ups every now and then in the form of medications, Physical Therapy, and spinal injections. There are alot of things I cannot do any more that I wish I could. But, I try to live within my limitations and avoid any further surgery. For me, being able to ride 2-5 hours is better than no hours!!!

    Back to your situation. Be patient and do not push it. If your the kind of guy that gets mad at your situation and goes for it anyway, you could be pushing your way to a surgery that may or may not be successful. I know, I was one of those guys. A friend of mine is one of those guys and after several failed surgeries he is messed up. Get many professional opinions. Choose the treatment that is least evasive and try it. Chiropractors can be good and bad. It has been 3 months, It may be time to see a Doctor and/or a back pain clinic ran by Doctors. Physical Therapy, core training and possibly spinal injections may be needed. Surgeons are paid to do surgery. A consultation with the best specialist with in your reach may be needed if the other treatments don't work. Don't jump ahead to the quick fix. There is no such thing. One thing I know for certain, when you mess with the stack of building blocks (your spine) the chance for a 100% recovery for life is more than likely not going to happen. After my first surgery I was almost 100%. At the weak point I broke again. I am far less than 100% now. It sucks!!!

    I feel for you!!! Get second opinions, talk to many people, set up a course of treatment that makes sense to you. Lastly, get pushed into surgery as a last resort. A shorter ride now is better than no riding when your older!!!

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    I popped a disk in my back some years ago and my excellent doc gave me two choices, surgery or three weeks on my back followed by a few years of a simple exercise I do to this very day that clears up sciatica when it flares in a few days. Lay on your back first bringing the left knee to the chest, count to fifteen, repeat 2X, then the right leg, repeat 2X, then both knees to the chest, repeat 2x. Each morning and each evening, then once during the day. Also helps to do a set at each gas fillup if it is bugging me on long rides, which really looks silly but works
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    I had similar pain the early 90's. It was a ruptured disc at the 5th lumbar. Had surgery to clean out the ruptured material and all has been well since then, as long as I watch my weight and properly lift things. Had gone to a chiropractor, but I don't know how he could correct a ruptured disc. Not to over simplify, but it would be like fixing a ruptured jelly donut. Find an ortopedic surgeon with good references.

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    Just noticed Ted's post included some excercises. I also do those.

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    ...do a set at each gas fillup...Ted
    This reminded me of Peter Egan's back attack at the start of a long ride on his newly re-handlebarred Harley. He had to lay on his back at a gas station to recover, then rode home and completed the ride on his R100RS, which he named the "orthopedic bike."
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    I ruptured L4-L5 in 2000, a piece of the disc impinging on the nerve. PT & decompression were temporary, less than a week, the steroid shots didn't take, most of my right leg was numb on the surface, still have a small area on my shin that is numb.
    Finally was referred to a neurosurgeon who removed the disc, immediate relief upon waking in the hospital. Six months later I had reassembled my K100 and rode 600+ miles in one day to the RA rally in Morgantown.
    When you speak with the surgeon, tell him you are just stubborn and fighting through the pain to continue the activities you are doing. You want to be pain free and functional.
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    I have a possible solution/cure. Well, it worked for me.

    I endured sciatica about twelve years ago. Pain shooting down the back of my left leg. My GP doctor pointed me to a nearby sports/physical therapy clinic. When I met the therapist who I think owned the rehab place, I described my symptoms. He said with an air of confidence, "You have sciatica. I know how to take care of it."

    He directed, "You want to stretch the nerve. What I am prescribing will hurt, but you will get better, and soon you won't suffer from sciatica anymore."

    Then he described the stretching exercise...

    - Sitting on a chair, put your chin on your chest.
    - Extend the leg that is hurting, keeping it straight. While keeping the chin on your chest, place your hands under the thigh and lift the extended straight leg as high as you can.
    - Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Hold it for 30 seconds. Let the leg down. Repeat two more times.
    - Do the preceding 3x a day.

    While sitting, with the chin on the chest, and lifting the extended straight leg with your hands, you are stretching the sciatic nerve. Within a week the pain went away. Over the past twelve years, maybe 2-3x I felt a slight twinge it was returning. I would put the chin on the chest, lift the leg, stretch the nerve. Presto... pain gone. Amazing. Hasn't returned in years. I thought I was going to live with crippling pain, and the therapist gave me a simple exercise that completely healed me.

    To be sure, this worked for me. I don't know if anyone's symptoms are the same as mine, and if there is any risk for trying the same exercise, but I have to mention what completely took away my sciatica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    I popped a disk in my back some years ago and my excellent doc gave me two choices, surgery or three weeks on my back followed by a few years of a simple exercise I do to this very day that clears up sciatica when it flares in a few days. Lay on your back first bringing the left knee to the chest, count to fifteen, repeat 2X, then the right leg, repeat 2X, then both knees to the chest, repeat 2x. Each morning and each evening, then once during the day. Also helps to do a set at each gas fillup if it is bugging me on long rides, which really looks silly but works
    That's essentially the same thing my chiro told me to do. So far, only minor relief, but I'm in the throughs of my first major attack.

    And thanks to Steve and Ron for additional resources!
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    I had back pain for years and finally got sent to a therapist who introduced me to the Mckenzie excercises. My pain and sciatia are gone. Google Mckenzie excercises and you will find a lot of info including a Youtube video.
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    I had sciatica attacks yearly for about 10 years. I started going to the Chiropractor about 8 years ago. That would help some. It all went away when I started doing mild yoga exercises. No more back/leg pain. Haven't snooped around the chiropractor in about 4 years. My wife is earning her teaching certificate for yoga and showed me a few exercises that really help. I do them before I get out of the bed in the am. I know this won't help those who truly need surgery, but I think MD's are a little quick with the knife.

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    I dealt with it for a year or so and tried chiro and other sorts of responses. Finally went to a ortho surgeon who gave me a steroid injection in the spine. I was supposed to have three injections but after the first I was asymptomatic and continue to be four years later.
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