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    I made my opinion know. You can't fix problems if you don't know they exist and a polite approach is always more accepted than just ranting and raving.
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    Next year

    I might make a donation to place the person who made the decision to bring the flame cars to the rally in a dunking booth filled with ice water.

    That had to be surpassed by the person who then decided to have the cars make repeated runs despite the disapproval of the audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDOCKERY132445 View Post
    I might make a donation to place the person who made the decision to bring the flame cars to the rally in a dunking booth filled with ice water.

    That had to be surpassed by the person who then decided to have the cars make repeated runs despite the disapproval of the audience.
    You know - on a cool summer evening with a pleasant breeze, those 'flaming cars' might have proven to be curiously entertaining.

    Just the wrong option at the wrong time, given short tempers and evaporated patience. Still doesn't excuse the rude behavior that became infectious.

    I'm confident that for Sedalia, much criticism has been digested and efforts will be made to operate an outstanding Rally.

    That seems to be the nature of this MOA venue - identify 'glitches' (NOT mistakes - just 'glitches') and keep the process evolving to produce a wonderful gathering of BMW owners.

    See you in Sedalia!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDOCKERY132445 View Post
    I might make a donation to place the person who made the decision to bring the flame cars to the rally in a dunking booth filled with ice water.

    That had to be surpassed by the person who then decided to have the cars make repeated runs despite the disapproval of the audience.
    Believe me when I say that if there were one thing we could retroactively change about the Bloomsburg rally - that would be it. And no one would like to do that more than the guy behind those cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDOCKERY132445 View Post
    I might make a donation to place the person who made the decision to bring the flame cars to the rally in a dunking booth filled with ice water.

    That had to be surpassed by the person who then decided to have the cars make repeated runs despite the disapproval of the audience.
    I'm sure the flame cars were contracted based on normal weather. If the weather had been normal, the flame cars would have been nice.

    Being a tightwad, I can also understand why someone would decide to let them continue to complete their contracted runs. When I purchase something to eat that is less tasty I expected, I sometimes eat it anyway because I don't want to waste it and throw it away. I suspect someone didn't want to be accused of paying for something that was not delivered.

    Nobody did anything they didn't think was in the best interests of the membership.
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    All these complaints...I chose to just walk away until the flames were over.

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    If you don't need to be present to win the Grand Prize then why change the ground rules for the remainder. Please consider the hard-working volunteers out there who are excluded from winning under this strange rule, simply because they are busy volunteering somewhere else on site to provide the masses with First Aid cover, Security, BEER !!!! etc.
    If the prize donors insist that the winner be present then a proxy should be allowed to claim any prize won by a volunteer who is working at that time.
    At least twice that I can remember, someone in the crowd shouted out that the winner was working in the beer tent (or other place); someone got ahold of the winner, and they claimed their prize.

    That's not a foolproof way of handling volunteers who are not present, but it can work. Despite that, there may still be a better way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muriel View Post
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    If you don't need to be present to win the Grand Prize then why change the ground rules for the remainder. Please consider the hard-working volunteers out there who are excluded from winning under this strange rule, simply because they are busy volunteering somewhere else on site to provide the masses with First Aid cover, Security, BEER !!!! etc.
    If the prize donors insist that the winner be present then a proxy should be allowed to claim any prize won by a volunteer who is working at that time.
    At least twice that I can remember, someone in the crowd shouted out that the winner was working in the beer tent (or other place); someone got ahold of the winner, and they claimed their prize.

    That's not a foolproof way of handling volunteers who are not present, but it can work. Despite that, there may still be a better way.

    Muriel
    Maybe the cell phone number could be included with the name and rather than having to be present they would only have to be reachable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osbornk View Post
    Maybe the cell phone number could be included with the name and rather than having to be present they would only have to be reachable.
    Ahh, technology! Cool idea!

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    Came across this thread doing a google search on how to spell Knochlein Award. I found the comments interesting. As Das Rally was my first rally, it was interesting seeing how the leadership actually took many of the recommendations from this thread and implemented them long term. (case in point; foundation winner was notified via cell phone that he had won the rally bike. He wasn't attending the concert, he was at his tent I believe) There was also no flame cars at the closing ceremonies. Greg is now the rally chair for 2017, I suspect someone who has been closely monitoring that which makes a rally successful for so long will have a real good chance of making next years rally, super awesome.
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    The ultimate embarrassing closing ceremony is still Missoula, when with guests from the city already on the dais, including the person who would be accepting the MOA charity donation, a group of individuals who had helped with the rally lined up in front of the stage and...mooned the crowd. A truly classless act not well received by the attendees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider View Post
    The ultimate embarrassing closing ceremony is still Missoula, when with guests from the city already on the dais, including the person who would be accepting the MOA charity donation, a group of individuals who had helped with the rally lined up in front of the stage and...mooned the crowd. A truly classless act not well received by the attendees.

    DG
    Totally not cool.
    Must have been back in those wild and crazy biker days I've heard so much about around campfires.
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    Whoop di doo!

    Why on God's green earth are we discussing the 2011 closing ceremonies in 2016.
    Last edited by PGlaves; 10-29-2016 at 12:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerreece View Post
    Came across this thread doing a google search on how to spell Knochlein Award. I found the comments interesting. As Das Rally was my first rally, it was interesting seeing how the leadership actually took many of the recommendations from this thread and implemented them long term. (case in point; foundation winner was notified via cell phone that he had won the rally bike. He wasn't attending the concert, he was at his tent I believe) There was also no flame cars at the closing ceremonies. Greg is now the rally chair for 2017, I suspect someone who has been closely monitoring that which makes a rally successful for so long will have a real good chance of making next years rally, super awesome.
    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Whoop di doo!

    Why on God's green earth are we discussing the 2011 closing ceremonies in 2016.
    I thought it was interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerreece View Post
    I thought it was interesting.
    As one of a very few recipients of the Knochlein Award, I am proud. But why the problems or not problems of 6 years ago are relevant in 2016, I don't know. Interesting, maybe. Actually informative, I'm not sure.
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