New top box, lock is inside, how to open

kctay · May 14, 2011

Hey,

My new 49L top box just arrived. The problem is, the lock assembly is inside the box, which appears to be locked (how I don't know since the assembly is inside, there is just a hole there). How do I open the box with the lock assembly missing?

kurt1305 · May 14, 2011

Use an instrument such a screwdriver to reach into the back of the hole and push to release the paddle latch. Once inserted, the cylinder performs this function.

Polarbear · May 14, 2011

?

They actually send a box, unassembled? I cannot imagine why! The tip above seems logical though. I just do not understand why a new box needs to be secure, before ownership? Anyhow, good luck, enjoy your new topbox. I love my Jesse Pizza Box, GSA1200 Randy :usa

kctay · May 14, 2011

Thanks Kurt I'll try that. Polar, the box isn't "unassembled", just the locking mechanism isn't in place.

jaherbst · May 14, 2011

kctay said:
Thanks Kurt I'll try that. Polar, the box isn't "unassembled", just the locking mechanism isn't in place.

Still?

Jack

kurt1305 · May 14, 2011

It has to be re-keyed prior to the insertion of the lock. BMW also sells the lock as a separate piece IIRC. The GS panniers require SIX of them!

jkbales · May 14, 2011

Sometimes the lock mechanism turns to the "locked" position if there's no cylinder to hold it in place. Look inside with a flashlight and you can see the "ring" that rotates to lock/release. It's all plastic so be careful not to gouge it. Try using a paint can opener to rotate the ring if needed. Then a dowel or something blunt can be pushed in to unlatch it.

I have a new, never opened cylinder if you need one.

Toadmanor · May 14, 2011

its shipped without the lock installed so you can fix it to be same as your ignition key. A fairly simple task of getting the wafers in correctly.

kctay · May 14, 2011

Toad, that is a good tip if I could get the box open to get to the lock assembly...

realworld51 · May 14, 2011

kctay said:
Toad, that is a good tip if I could get the box open to get to the lock assembly...

Well, there's always the "dealer option". :violin

Toadmanor · May 15, 2011

kctay said:
Toad, that is a good tip if I could get the box open to get to the lock assembly...

Get something about the same circumference as the hole where the lock goes. Stick it in there and turn it. You need to rotate the inside chamber of the lock repository.

kctay · May 15, 2011

Thanks, I'll try that.

kctay · May 18, 2011

Ok, used a large screwdriver to turn where the lock goes, this popped the handle, but not the latch? I tried pushing in, like how you open the side cases but this wouldn't work. Any more suggestions?

dbrick · May 18, 2011

kctay said:
Ok, used a large screwdriver to turn where the lock goes, this popped the handle, but not the latch? I tried pushing in, like how you open the side cases but this wouldn't work. Any more suggestions?

The lock cylinder rotates CW to release the bag's hold on the bike; that pops the handle up. The lock cylinder also rotates CCW to release the triangular flap; pulling the flap opens the bag.

I think you turned it CW. Try CCW.

kctay · May 18, 2011

Thanks, I'll try that now.

kctay · May 19, 2011

Dbrick, that did it, thanks all.

kctay · May 31, 2011

Ok, it continues.....
Got the lock re-keyed, slid it in the case, everything looked good....but...
The key only moves in two positions......
No doubt the receiver was in the wrong position when I slid the lock in.
So the question is; how do i get the lock out so I can re-position the receiver?
And what position does the receiver need to be in?

Toadmanor · May 31, 2011

kctay said:
Ok, it continues.....
Got the lock re-keyed, slid it in the case, everything looked good....but...
The key only moves in two positions......
No doubt the receiver was in the wrong position when I slid the lock in.
So the question is; how do i get the lock out so I can re-position the receiver?
And what position does the receiver need to be in?

You may be in big trouble. Once in, the lock can not be removed without drilling!

kurt1305 · May 31, 2011

I don't know the answer on the top case, but this may give you some idea where to start:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300753

kctay · May 31, 2011

Toad, no, you don't have to drill. I found a tutorial, but i can't get to the release through the access hole. Just wondered if someone had an easier way than to try to trip the release with a paperclip tapped to a screw driver. Plus, since the thing isn't in there right, I'm unsure if I have it in the locked position, which is were it has to be so the hole that allows you to release it is accessable.

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