As I learned to ride in groups, I found out who were the good riders and who were the not so good riders. Generally I started riding more by myself, and less with groups or even with another rider. I had a buddy years ago, who was a Harley rider, and a high mileage rider, if I remember maybe 50,000 a year. He traded his Harley in every year and usually it had about 50,000 on the od. I met him through Leo Goff. He was a salesman for a company that sold automotive and motorcycle hardware. I was impressed for a Harley rider that rode that much.