No GPS for me, as I take my biking seriouis, away from the high tech end, by choice. Pilot, Coastal sailor has given me enough GPS in life, all good and requiured, but I take my biking simple by choice. Guess its my Airhead roots and thats funny, becasue my Airhead has a GPS. Can't win here. So far, my GSA is high tech free. I love my maps. I'll find my way. Randy PS; winning a bike, I'm a non likely candiadate, but IN the match Thanks Visian/Newstar and others for the hard work, TT too for stepping UP with a F800, so cool...How could one ever beat that? .RBear