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GSA / 09 won't start after deep mud bath

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ronccr

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GSA will not start advice is needed

This is odd so I will describe the circumstances and actions taken and hopefully I might obtain a clue on how to start it.

I got stuck in 2ft plus mud, I had to place bike on left side for maybe 5 min and drag out a bit, then right side for solid half hour and dragged a bit. I finally up righted out of the "quick mud".

Bike started quickly and ran for 20 seconds and has not started since. I cleaned what mud I could in trails, verified what I could on all wires were in tact, confirmed approximately 2 gallons of gas. No mud was in exhaust when I set down and I have great compression.

I will power wash bike this morning and exam all wires / inspect more closely.

Can anyone offer advice?

Thanks

Ron
 
ronccr said:
GSA will not start advice is needed

This is odd so I will describe the circumstances and actions taken and hopefully I might obtain a clue on how to start it.

I got stuck in 2ft plus mud, I had to place bike on left side for maybe 5 min and drag out a bit, then right side for solid half hour and dragged a bit. I finally up righted out of the "quick mud".

Bike started quickly and ran for 20 seconds and has not started since. I cleaned what mud I could in trails, verified what I could on all wires were in tact, confirmed approximately 2 gallons of gas. No mud was in exhaust when I set down and I have great compression.

I will power wash bike this morning and exam all wires / inspect more closely.

Can anyone offer advice?

Thanks

Ron
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Hi Ron, Be careful on a hard pressure wash as it can inject water into bad places. On the no start, of course I'm not there, but have seen this set up-stuck in the mud.......and erratic start run. The time I saw a similar situation the problem was mud jammed up in the handle bar kill switch. I'm also going to move this to Hex/Cam as yours is an '09. You will have better exposure there. Good luck, Gary
 
Use a soft power wash, kill sswitch is operational - turns over in on posistion and kills in off posistion.

deep mud was not reall planned, it just kind of got in the way of travel...
 
Check you air intake make sure it is not plugged or into the air box especially if you were dragging the bike out

Check your connectors to the throttle bodies ensure they are on, no damage etc.

Good point on the kill swtich - you may also want to check the kick stand cut off switch, again due to dragging out requirments

And as stated before be very easy with the pressure washer - if i were you i would just use a hose

Keep us posted
 
I'll check all points below and use hose. Bike does turn over with no issue so I thought this elimated kill and kickstand switch?

I will remove air filter and inspect very close.

thanks
 
ronccr said:
I'll check all points below and use hose. Bike does turn over with no issue so I thought this elimated kill and kickstand switch?

I will remove air filter and inspect very close.

thanks
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IGNITION, COMPRESSION, FUEL, AIR

Start by determining if you have spark. If not then switches and wiring are suspect.

If so, then fuel and/or air are suspect. If you have spark then check the air filter air box for mud ingestion and go from there.

Check pulleys to verify that one throttle body isn't jammed open. That could kill the balance enough it won't start.
 
Thanks ALL - problem solved.

It appears I had a vacuum issue with fuel.

I laid bike over of left side, made sure gas stickled over and attempted to start - failed... open then close gas cap and it restarted quickly. It had since started over a dozen times testing it. I did hear a slight gulp of air when I opened gas cap.

Is it possible I isolated issue correctly or could there be an underlying issue?

Thanks again.
Ron
 
That's Great, as I mentioned before it's hard to guess from afar. From your latest info it could be that in the upset there was a drain back of gas OR water intrusion that soaked the carbon canister/vapor recovery system.. it may take a while to air out but sounds like you got it. :thumb Gary
 
thanks again, the info keep my head on straight in thinking it through..

I am very comfortable I had a vapor lock now as I run tanke low when off road.

enjoy the day and safe riding

Ron
 
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