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    http://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php?t=36738

    It's a R1150RS, I messed up, typical noob.

    "I returned to the dealer and took the G650GS for a test ride. It's a great bike and I enjoyed it. Drew suggested I ride the 1150 again, as soon as he pulled it up I was apprehensive! I told him and he said well you road it yesterday and your just repeating that. While waiting for him I started her up and practiced with one finger on the front brake rocking the bike, then walking the bike and stopping (All the standard first day MSF drills). Many thanks to the suggestion of one finger at slow speeds, the power assist on those brakes requires it. I even drove it around the lot using the front brake without a problem. Took her down the road and hit both brakes fairly firmly and while very effective, not violent. I was very mindful of the throttle and did not have a problem. As we made the tight decreasing radius turn up the little hill into the parking lot I had her in 2nd and was riding the bake brake for stability. I was on more of a hill than the previous day and stalled. Used the front brake with one finger and started her back up, pulled her back around to get prepped. She is smoother than the G650GS, and yes deserves considerably more respect. I rode both bikes and to me it was like a completely different day and a different bike thanks to some tips received here. Drew apologized and said he should have told me ahead of time that I would need to be in first pulling back in the way we came. No big deal it put me in a very similar situation to the one that created the drop and I did not freak out, had found what it takes and was all set.

    Do I have a handful, absolutely. Am I proficient with it, never will be. But I am a lot more at ease now. In fact I was more comfortable on the RS than the 650, it's smoother and the suspension is a lot better. Will I run into problems yes, but that's why new riders need seat time, and that's why I'll be attending Intermediate and Advanced MSF classes as well as any classes I can get through BMW. I think the reality is I have a ton (understatement) of respect for this bike and know I need to ride it daily and need never to become complacent.

    Thanks for the welcomes, tips and feedback everyone. As a noob, I hope to be a very safe noob even given the bike I am riding is capable of far more than I will ever ask her to do. I am sure I will be back with more questions, just the way I am, typical type A pain in the a$$ over analyzing everything."

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    noobs we all are each morning as we start our day.

    Welcome to the noob warren! Hope you have many sMiles and posts about them!

    Pass the mustard and UP THE REVOLUTION!

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    Took delivery of my 2004 BMW R1150RS w/EVO ABS Brakes on Saturday. It's Wednesday and did not ride, but still managed 200 non-highway miles. No record by BMW standards, but this is my first bike and I am feeling pretty good about it. The brakes are no longer an issue. I need a lot more miles before I attempt a full on panic stop with them, but I have practiced some extremely quick stops. I can cruise parking lots with the front brake now, of course the rear provides better stability making slow tight turns in a parking lot.

    Throttle control has been good which I attribute to my MSF instructors tip of keeping my wrist below my knuckles. Without question the bikes power is significant. As I am a very new rider I am using it very cautiously. No riding in the wet yet and easy on the throttle in the curves, but certainly enough to start to enjoy cornering. I am working on smoother stop starts with less touch down. I do have my stops with a gentle left heel plant rolling to a flat left foot down pat.

    Thanks for all the tips!

    Drubery

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    Good Choice!

    You obviously spent a lot of time on your decision.
    I think you made a good choice but I'm prejudiced.
    Take it slow and you'll grow to love that bike.
    Enjoy!
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    Western NY Rider drubery's Avatar
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    Smile I've smiled, still a noob, but I've smiled!

    Tom Baker is the most enthusiastic positive person here? Sorry Tom, no offense. Remind me to be cautious but also celebrate with me. We had solid downpours here Wednesday and light rain Thursday and since I took delivery of the bike last Saturday I have racked up 250+ beginner miles! Not to shabby (noob and working long hours) and what a neat way to get around

    I am more and more happy and comfortable (read not complacent) with the bike every day. Mind you I am watching everyone else out there, the road ahead, but all this attention and focus helps me escape the trials and tribulations we call reality, this BMW has helped to change that. Every different kind of road or traffic pattern is a new journey , is something different, nothing is ever the same twice. Thank you all once again for your support, cautions and otherwise.

    -Dennis

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    Love this RT! tkbaker4's Avatar
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    No Offense taken.
    You're going to love that bike.
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    Drubery,

    Welcome.

    Experience and reflexes will come as the miles accumulate.

    Just be careful and have "eyes in the back of your head" whenever you are on two wheels. Look at everything and expect all other drivers/riders on the road to do the most stupid thing possible- many times they will do just that.

    Pay attention at all times plus become an experienced rider and ten years from now you will be advising future noobs.

    Best of luck on 2 wheels.

    John
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    Thumbs up

    I'm loving it already and yes watching everything like a hawk. I never assume anyone can see me. She's ready to go to work tomorrow!
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    Just drove my car today for the first time since last Friday evening, what a difference. Poor visibility with pillars in the way, slow, definitely more work. It's an 05' Accord 5 spd and always knew it was a sled, but after almost a week strait of nothing but bike, I think I am hooked for good.

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    2-up and havin' fun sugarhillctd's Avatar
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    What a difference- two wheels vs. 4, huh?

    Glad you are liking your new ride- congratulations..

    BTW, Cathy and I have the same helmet as you- how do you like it behind the windscreen of your RS?

    John
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    John, Nolan N102 - cons: it whistles, you have to be firm to close face shield all the way, fogs easily, I think it could vent better - pros: well constructed sturdy mechanism for the modular, nice release, does not grab your head when you turn to check lanes (good aerodynamics), excellent material used in the face shield and interior is very comfortable. I plan on wearing a buff with it but it was a little tight in the forehead when I first purchased the helmet, tried on a ton of helmets except Arai and Shoei as I was not sure riding would be for me. I am also not wearing ear plugs yet, but am going to start today. I wanted time to get used to the sounds around me at natural levels. I am a downhill skier and have worn a helmet for 5-6 years now doing that and have never skied with my iPod as I like to know what's going on around me.

    I have not worn many motorcycle helmets, but I am satisfied with this Nolan. The sun shield comes in handy and it was worth the $200 I paid for it. The jacket is a Coretech Tourmaster II in Hi-Vis. I may be looking at a BMW Airflow Mesh jacket as the Tourmaster is a little warm when it's over 85 and humid.

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    Thumbs up Time for an update?

    I put the bike away for the season of 2009 after logging 4,000 miles. Given work is 26 miles round trip and none of those miles are are highway miles (Except the work commute), the rest are practice miles on back roads and I did not start until the middle of June; I'd call it a very good first season.

    With great weather in the Spring of 2010 I've been out riding a lot. On my second ride of the season I stopped in at my local dealership to say hello. My salesmen pointed out an 05' K1200S they'd just taken in and suggested I take it for a ride. Now don't get upset with him, I'd told him I was interested in K-bikes. The R1150RS was plenty powerful, but with a dry clutch and the horizontally opposed twin I wanted to try a flying brick. I was hesitant to take him up on his offer, but he'd been stuck in all day and was going to lead the way on the new S1000RR. So off we went!

    Needless to say I was hooked, and the K1200S does have manners. I put my R1150RS up for sale on MOA, local clubs web-site and Craig's List. Meanwhile with the small amount of storage the K1200S has I started searching Craig's List for a K1200GT and asked my dealer to start looking for an 07 or 08'. Then I found an 07' in New Hampshire on Craig's List, (the really fast Graphite color) 3,433 miles, small top case, Navigator III, Cee Bailey's screen, BC, ESA and cruise. ASC and Xenon where the only options missing that I wanted. Fair price, seller was expecting twins and I bought the 07' K1200GT after exchanging some pictures and e-mails.

    I wanted to pick the GT up that week (March 19th), but false labor and a busy week at the hospital where too much. The seller offered to hold the GT while I was gone, I offered a deposit which he declined. The following week I was going to be in Vancouver and Whistler British Columbia so with no bites on my bike I listed my R1150RS on Craig's List in NH. While I was in BC I received a couple of inquires and one buyer!

    On 4/1 after receiving a deposit for the R1150RS I departed for NH (7.5 hours away) on the R1150RS around 4 PM. I made it to Springfield,MA around 8:15 PM where I decided to warm up and get some rest a couple exits North on 91. I hit the road again at 7:30 the next morning Good Friday, it was a chilly 39 degrees. I made it to the buyers home at around 11:30 AM. Great guy, we got along well and the bike being as described we closed the deal AND he gave me a ride 45 minutes away to meet the seller of the GT. We said our hellos, introductions were made and goodbyes said. Good Friday, the seller and I went to the bank to retrieve the title and lien release and then the seller gave me a ride to NH DMV for temporary tags. Back to the bike, suited up in my Motoport gear and hit the road on the GT after a quick walk through of the GT around 3:30 PM.

    Not sure I was going to make it all the way home I headed out Route 101 to Route 9 through NH and Vermont toward Albany. I had not had anything to eat since the breakfast buffet at 7 AM and the buyer of the R1150RS giving me a bottle of water. I accidentally left my Camel-back in the sellers truck! Well with a stop in Troy, NY for gas and another stop just East of Syracuse for some water a bagel and a little Coke, I made it home safely at 11:15 PM. The seller was kind enough to send me the OEM standard height windscreen, the spare key, service records and my Camel-back! Between the buyer, the bank, the NH DMV, and the seller it just shows you there are still great people in this world!

    I have ridden 2,000 miles so far this season, 1400 of which have been on the GT. With 6,000 miles under my belt I still have a lot to learn, but work on my riding every time I get on the bike and plan on attending some courses this summer. I am getting sliders installed on the GT in case I have a repeat of a past event I care to forget. There are times I miss my R1150RS, she is a great bike! I equally love the GT, it's a missile, but the gas mileage is not as good.

    Have a safe riding season and good luck in the MOA drawing tomorrow!

    -Dennis
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    Congrats on the K! Love the Graphite color and glad to hear you had such a positive sales and purchase experience.
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