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    Clutch Judder?

    Anybody have this clutch judder? We have 2 '08 K12Ses and they both have it to some degree. Seems like it is more pronounced if I let the rear wheel drive the clutch instead of shifting as the engine is still driving the clutch.
    I guess it's not a big deal, and the drain plug is clean (~8000 miles).
    Just wondering.
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    I think its normal

    I've noticed the same thing on my bike but I doubt its anything to worry about. It just wouldn't be a beemer without transmission noises.

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    I don't have one, still dreaming, but on other sites I have seen such comments. Primarily I have seen them relative to the GT, to the extent some are really unhappy. But, it is what I have read and may only represent a very small minority on something relatively subjective.
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    My 1300GT has it too

    Didn't have it at all at first. Now with 2k miles, it's there, but barely.

    Seems more noticable when bike is good and warm.

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    I get that everyonce in a while, but i attribute it to me as sometimes I am in too high of a gear going too slow. I was able to leave s top light in 4th!! because i forgot to downshift - obviously still learning the bike - it's that smooth

    sometimes it happens so qucik I can't slip the clutch fast enough, but for the most part, it is one of the slickest shifting trannys i ever had. Plus i like the first gear clunk
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    I thought I had the judder

    Still learning the bike as well but noticed it the other day since it isn't the same feel as the dry clutched boxers.
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    I've really been noticing it on inclines out here in WVa, etc. Not really an issue, because the clutch works well. I think the 1300 has a different friction material and I kind of assumed that it didn't have the judder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semper_Fi View Post
    but for the most part, it is one of the slickest shifting trannys i ever had. Plus i like the first gear clunk
    So sophisticated, yet maintaining that agricultural ambiance.

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    After being on the GSA all last week, took the wedge out today and about blew off the seat when I cracked the throttle in third Tried to feel the judder, but the whole bike is so smooth after the Boxer Buzz I didn't notice it today.
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    At 500 miles I felt it faintly had the Service Manager explain to me it"s a break in thing than at 2500 miles the same Service Manager said it wasn't significant enough to worry about. A month ago at 6,000 miles I bought the bike in and just left it un-driveable Dealership started withit needs a engine oil change Than it's driver sloppy drive habits Now they'll have BMW pay for it after a month of letting it sit there as they worked on everything else.

    Don't let them do this to you - You feel it get it documented and get it corrected it only gets worse.

    The dealer was very unprofessional and the owner of the dealership was just as bad as the service manager.

    I know warranty claims are tough for dealerships especially on Clutch - Brakes - Cosemetics BUT this clutch problem is a major issue on the K's

    You can't destroy a wet clutch in 6,000 miles even if your an idiot, which I am not!

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    Jim,
    What year and model?
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    I have gotten mine to do it or at least have me be more cognizant of it.

    Usually in first gear as i am letting out the clutch and not being as quick with the throttle it will grrrr a litte.

    If i increase the gas it goes away....
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    Clutch Judder

    My 07 GT had issues with the judder when cold or under load.
    The dealer gave me the "party" line that it's normal, but I persisted.
    They tried to make me think it was me, but I pointed out that my 85 K100 RT that I had for 24 years never had the clutch apart and only needed adjustment a few times.
    There was a recall torque issue with some bolts from the factory and they were re-done, but it was still there.
    Long story short, they put in a new clutch and viola no more judder.
    Moral of the story ... keep after them while it's still under warranty!

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    I noticed this on a Demo K1300GT I rode a couple weeks ago. Not sure if that means it's normal, but the bike only had a few hundred miles on it and admittedly I wasn't expecting it from a wet clutch bike...but then I reminded myself its a BMW :-)

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    I read in the K Bike Forums that this has been a problem affecting some of the K1200. I have aprox 15,000 miles now and the problem started around the 900 mile mark with a squeek/sqelch type of sound taking off in 1st gear under load. Never tell the wife it happens when she's on it!
    Now there is absolutely NO judder or squeek.
    Some forums indicated an oil change or change to synthetic stopped it.
    Who knows, but I'm getting close to an oil change and my bike is perfect.
    I have ridden the 13's and the clutch/gearbox was very slick (like the japanese).
    I had also tried out the 12's at the Americade Rally and thro demo rides (about 1/2 dozen or so) and this was never evendent.
    I couldn't have bought a better bike. The 12's and the 13's are incredible.
    I been to the track 1 time and have 2 more booked with the new bike (I had my 85 K100RT to the track over 20 times) and it's unbelievable.
    BTW when I sold my K100 last month (Hated to see her go!) it just snicked into 1st and purred away with the new owner.
    My BMW shop (Durham BMW in Ajax) have been fantastic after they understood I wasn't giving up on the new bike.
    Sure they're expensive, but my japanese bikes would never last 24+ years, perform so well and only need preventive maintenance (70 oil changes and 23 tires etc.).
    I'm a fast rider, but don't like the 1/4 mile type of thing as much as corners.
    I've tried all the different bikes from Ducati's to Harley's (Ya ... I know!) and the new generation BMW's are the M5's of the biking world!
    Very happy camper now, but there was some turbulance.
    Try out another bike as sometimes those demos anre demoed!

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