# Thread: Shameless Trolling - For Touring Tips

1. ## The Answer (to a trick question)

Originally Posted by rmarkr
Ok Paul, your turn for a brain teaser.

Three riders stop for a meal and each pays \$10. The waiter takes the \$30 to the cashier/owner, and seeing that they are the cheap type (on BMW's), he gives the waiter \$5 to refund them. The waiter pockets \$2, and gives each rider a 1 dollar back. Now each rider has paid \$9 (\$27 in all), the waiter has \$2, which adds up to \$29. Where is the missing dollar?
Here is the fatal flaw in logic/math behind this brain teaser: "Now each rider has paid \$9 (\$27 in all),"

In truth, each rider only thinks he or she paid a fair share, but one-third of a \$25 check is ~\$8.33, not \$9.00.

Each rider paid \$9.00, true. However, each actually overpaid by 2/3 dollars (i.e., ~\$0.67) when you include their "share" of what the waiter kept and then subtract each person's share of the change that was returned. Although each rider receives \$1 in change, each should have received his or her fair share of the \$5.00 in change, i.e., 5/3 or ~\$1.67, except that thievin' waiter kept 2/3 dollars (~\$0.67) from each rider's share of the change due, i.e., \$2/3 + \$2/3 + \$2/3 = \$6/3 = \$2, which is what the waiter pocketed. To put it another way, 5/3 (change due) - 2/3 (portion of change kept by waiter) = 3/3 = 1, which is what each person actually received. The waiter returned only \$3 (\$1 each x 3 riders) instead of the full \$5.00 (~\$1.67 each x 3 riders) that was actually due.

• Money given to waiter = \$30.00 (10 + 10 + 10)
• Total bill = \$25.00 (8 1/3 + 8 1/3 + 8 1/3) or ~\$8.33 owed by each rider
• Change due = \$30 - \$25 = \$5.00 (5/3 + 5/3 + 5/3) or ~\$1.67 (\$10 - ~\$8.67) to each rider
• Change that was actually returned = \$3.00 (1 + 1 + 1) or \$1.00 to each rider
• Share of change kept by waiter = \$2.00 (2/3 + 2/3 + 2/3) or ~\$0.67 "stolen" from each rider

So, \$30 paid, minus \$25 owed equals \$5 change due
and \$30 paid, less \$2 kept by waiter and \$3 returned equals \$25 for the cashier.
It all adds up. There is no missing dollar.

Be that as it may, I always find it much easier to say "Keep the change" and walk out the door. Gives me more time to ride while others are squabbling over who should get that odd 1/3 cent.

Besides, two bucks is a lousy tip on a 25-dollar check anyway. That waiter probably deserves to keep the entire \$5.00 in change, even if the service was not that great. Who knows? Maybe they just had a bad day. I'm sure it wouldn't have anything to do with cheap-a\$\$ed people who ride \$20K+ motorcycles arguing about how much change they should get back on a ten-dollar meal.

All in jest, my friends.

Time for a ride. Maybe I'll go find a nice mom-n-pop restaurant, enjoy a good meal, and leave a nice fat tip. I like to think that a generous tip may be helping in some small way to fund someone's dream of owning a BMW motorcycle some day...

-MTS

2. Challenge flag thrown! According to ^ ""The Pneumatic Tunnel Under Broadway" (1870)". www.nycsubway.org. Retrieved on 2008-07-07. (extract from Scientific American March 5, 1870)

"An underground transit system in New York City was first built by Alfred Ely Beach in 1869. His Beach Pneumatic Transit only extended 312 feet (95 m) under Broadway and exhibited his idea for a subway."

You never specified it had to be a commercially viable subway and besides, when it comes to digging, NYC tunneled hundreds of miles to deliver water from the Adirondacks.

Pete

Originally Posted by PAULBACH
Correct - Boston!
Boston's subway opened on September 1, 1897. London was the first city in the world to have a subway. It opened in 1863. Figures - a city know for the Big Dig would have the first subway. Of course the evens are 100 years apart.

Tip of Hat to the gentleman from The Old Dominion State - MTSweger

OK - Bonus trivia for Saturday:

1. In any one Grand Slam tennis event many matches in a row does a player have to win to take home the top trophy?
2. How many Grand Slam events are there and in what cities?

Something to challenge the tennis crowd? I wonder if there are any in the BMWMOA?

3. ## What a feisty crowd!

The Interborough Rapid Transit Subway, or IRT, was the first subway company in New York City. Even with elevated train lines springing up around the city, the need for an underground rapid transit railroad was obvious as a solution to street congestion and to assist development in outlying areas. On October 27, 1904, the first IRT subway line opened, and the city would never be the same.

Challenge Flag? Hmmm Cannot argue with the logic of glenfiddich, my distinguished and esteemed colleague from the Green Mountain State.

Glenfiddich - Tell you what I'm going to do Marine. Come to the meeting of the Vermont MOV tomorrow and the coffee is on me. Not the breakfast, not the lunch, not the brunch - just the coffee.

4. Originally Posted by dbrick
Sure:

1) All of them.
2) Four: Australian Open (Melbourne); Wimbledon (Wimbledon, a London suburb); French Open (Paris); US Open (Flushing Meadows NY)

And on a different subject: what happened to my last year's tip about microfiber clothing, tossed into the shower to clean?
Looking for a specific number here. I'm not sure if you have to win all of them - just winning the last one should do it.

But partial credit for sure. The Cities and the Opens are all correct.

But why is a gentleman from California not out riding?

5. Originally Posted by PAULBACH

Challenge Flag? Hmmm Cannot argue with the logic of glenfiddich, my distinguished and esteemed colleague from the Green Mountain State.

Glenfiddich - Tell you what I'm going to do Marine. Come to the meeting of the Vermont MOV tomorrow and the coffee is on me. Not the breakfast, not the lunch, not the brunch - just the coffee.
Deal! I'll bring the camera as well. I've heard rumors BMWMOV is in need of flattering shots of members. I've also heard that I might really need to hone my PhotoShop skills in order to pull that off!

Pete

6. Originally Posted by PAULBACH
But why is a gentleman from California not out riding?
I did too. After walking the dogs and doing email, I rode out to the college to check on today's MSF class. (I used to teach there until a disk herniation took me off-line.) Pretty nice out there today.

7. Originally Posted by glenfiddich
Deal! I'll bring the camera as well. I've heard rumors BMWMOV is in need of flattering shots of members. I've also heard that I might really need to hone my PhotoShop skills in order to pull that off!

Pete

If you are going to catch yours truly in action bring the wide angle lens; oh maybe the fisheye lens will do the job.

Your PhotoShop better be running on one of those core duo "cornfusers."

8. Originally Posted by dbrick View Post
Sure:

1) All of them.
2) Four: Australian Open (Melbourne); Wimbledon (Wimbledon, a London suburb); French Open (Paris); US Open (Flushing Meadows NY)

Looking for a specific number here. I'm not sure if you have to win all of them - just winning the last one should do it.
The number of matches you have to win is 7

OK - Saturday Night Challenge here.

What do the following things have in common? The answer is based on knowledge rather than observation, although observation has a lot to do with it.

Furnace . . Fly
Microscope . . Sculptor
Easel . . . Goldfish
Compass . . Toucan
River . . . Air Pump

9. Originally Posted by SIBUD
Shame, shame, shame, you know there is no missing dollar.
Gee SIBUD.......now you've blown it. I was going to make my millions like this.....no, not by being the waiter.

MTS, after all the arithmetic it boils down to:

So, \$30 paid, minus \$25 owed equals \$5 change due
and \$30 paid, less \$2 kept by waiter and \$3 returned equals \$25 for the cashier.
It all adds up. There is no missing dollar.

But thanks, I really enjoyed your response.

10. ## Touring tip

Here is a cheap way to keep your tank bag organized. Ask your wife or S.O. for the little comes=tics bags they get at the mall as promotion. They have a zipper most are water proof and you can organize your gear in 2-3 bags. 0\$ except if you finance the purchase of the cosmetics... And you can use a permanent marker to wipe out the words Clinique... lol

cheers

Denis R1200RT

11. Good Job

gened12

In order to complete submission of your Touring Tip:
First Name - Family Name & MOA Number
City and State

Thank You
Paul

12. I never leave home with out my Shamwow!
You can clean the bike with it, you can dry yourself with it, you can use it for lots of things around the campsite.

https://www.shamwow.com/ver8/index.asp

jason

13. ## Will have to get mine out of storage.

Good Job Gsjay

I bought a couple years ago after watching a sales pitch at Daytona and then - have left them in the garage. Are they that good?

14. ## Need a hint for this one?

What do the following things have in common? The answer is based on knowledge rather than observation, although observation has a lot to do with it.

Furnace . . Fly
Microscope . . Sculptor
Easel . . . Goldfish
Compass . . Toucan
River . . . Air Pump

Look at the word that has been put in bold - observation.

Geez - for a group that dug out the pneumatic subway under NYC.

15. Originally Posted by PAULBACH

Good Job Gsjay

I bought a couple years ago after watching a sales pitch at Daytona and then - have left them in the garage. Are they that good?

yep, they're that good. They've been sold for years under different names. Shamwow is just the latest go round.

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