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    R1200R Lowering Kit

    The wife is interested in upgrading from her current F650GS to an R1200R or R1200RT. She is "height challenged" (28" inseam), and would need the low seat option and probably lower the bike around 1"-1.5". Are there lowering options available for these bikes? If so, how much lower would it get her?
    Last edited by zarinelli; 06-16-2007 at 02:28 PM. Reason: Clarification
    Alain & Michele in Western Iowa
    '08 K1200GT(his) -- '09 Ducati Monster 696(hers)

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    pgods
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    lowering kit options...yes!

    Check out Works Performance. My girlfriend is 5'5" tall, 115 lbs - otherwise described as petite. She has an R1150R, uses the low saddle, and had the Works short shocks installed. She can almost "heel" the ground with both feet in 1 1/4 inch boot heel.
    She LOVES her bike!
    The only drawback is that it ain't cheap...maybe $1300 with installation. The up side: a petite woman can finally get a helluva bike under her bum that performs and rides like nothing she can imagine.
    I can send you a photo of her on her bike if you like.
    PS. my mechanic recommended to not install shocks MORE than 1 1/2 inches.

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    Has your wife actually tried the new Roadster with the low seat? She has 1" on me for inseam (I'm 27" on a tall day..) and the stock suspension with the low seat works great for me. I'm almost flat-footed on it.

    As an alterative to lowering it - if she still feels the need for more secure footing, I'd suggest she consider boots that will raise her up 1"+..

    At the RA Rally I was speaking to a few lady riders - and one suggested the following - she showed me how much it added to her height: https://shop.helimot.com/shopexd.asp?id=73 - it was over an inch.. These look like absolutely normal boots - and I'm considering the mens version for my next boots.

    Less costly than custom suspension, and these will travel with her from bike to bike.

    Just a thought..
    Don Eilenberger http://www.eilenberger.net
    Spring Lk Heights NJ NJ Shore BMW Riders
    '12 R1200R - I love this bike!

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    pgods
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    i agree

    I agree with trying the boots first. While my girlfriend did resort to the lowering kit, and it worked out wonderfully, if higher heels and a lower seat will work...by all means. Again, it isn't cheap. And...more shock = more absorption.

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    Wife here,

    Wife here - Thanks for all the replies! The boots are indeed a good idea - so good, I already have them and have been using them for several months. I have sat on the new R1200R with the low seat and I still need at least 1-2 inches more before I can even get the balls of my feet down - or one solid foot down at a stop. I have stopped listening to advice from people who tell me their inseam and then say a certain bike fits them and therefore I should be fine - depending on how a person measures their inseam, they can be as much as 3 inches off from my measurement. I used very specific instructions when I measured my inseam and it seems lots of people don't use the same method because I have read many many posts saying this bike or that bike should fit and when I sit on it, it comes FAR from fitting me - as in I can't even get it off the kick stand and my right leg is swinging in the air like 6 inches off the ground. It gets very frustrating.

    Pgods - if you could send a photo of your wife on her bike that would be GREAT! =)
    Alain & Michele in Western Iowa
    '08 K1200GT(his) -- '09 Ducati Monster 696(hers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarinelli View Post
    I have stopped listening to advice from people who tell me their inseam and then say a certain bike fits them and therefore I should be fine - depending on how a person measures their inseam, they can be as much as 3 inches off from my measurement. I used very specific instructions when I measured my inseam and it seems lots of people don't use the same method because I have read many many posts saying this bike or that bike should fit and when I sit on it, it comes FAR from fitting me - as in I can't even get it off the kick stand and my right leg is swinging in the air like 6 inches off the ground. It gets very frustrating.

    Pgods - if you could send a photo of your wife on her bike that would be GREAT! =)
    I simply go by the inseam that my tailor has to shorten all my pants to.. (no one makes off the rack 27" inseam pants.. even Haband and Hagar..)

    One or two caviats on lowering the bike:

    - It will make the centerstand difficult to impossible to use.

    BTDT on several bikes and have the pulled muscles in my lower back to show for it. It may be possible to lower the centerstand - haven't looked to see if there are any conflicts with other parts of the bike if you do this. One trick to park it in your garage on the regular centerstand is to run it up on a ramp under the back wheel when you pull in. That restores the ground/frame/centerstand height that the factory figured in when designing the centerstand. Did that for years on my lowered K bikes. Just don't plan on using the centerstand without the ramp... deadlifting 500lbs isn't good for your back (DAHMHIK..)

    - It will make the sidestand stand the bike up way straighter than it does now.

    Right now with stock suspension - the sidestand isn't awful - but for parking on a crowned road edge, it can be difficult or impossible with the suspension normal height. Shortening, or changing the lean angle of the sidestand would probably be a very good thing to consider doing if you go the lowered suspension route.
    Don Eilenberger http://www.eilenberger.net
    Spring Lk Heights NJ NJ Shore BMW Riders
    '12 R1200R - I love this bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deilenberger View Post
    I simply go by the inseam that my tailor has to shorten all my pants to.. (no one makes off the rack 27" inseam pants.. even Haband and Hagar..)
    That would explain it, my inseam measurement is not by pants measurement. I used the measurement method suggested by Corbin when measuring for a custom seat which usually makes my inseam 1-3 inches "taller" than people who use their pants inseam measurement. I used the method of: stand with back to a wall (no shoes), take slim book and put between legs as far up as possible - just short of painful - make sure back of book is flush against wall - measure from floor to top of spine of the book.

    I planned on having the side stand shortened and I believe the center stand can be shortened - but not as easily as the side stand. The ramp is a good idea.
    Alain & Michele in Western Iowa
    '08 K1200GT(his) -- '09 Ducati Monster 696(hers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarinelli View Post
    ...Pgods - if you could send a photo of your wife on her bike that would be GREAT!
    His girlfriend might not like that.

    Fred

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    photo

    Hi Zarinelli-
    Send me a quick email (paul@paulgodwin.com) to get your address and I'll send the photo of Susan on her bike.
    I'll also include her email so you can direct questions to her if you have any.
    The center stand is an issue and does inhibit an easy lift. It can be done, but most likely by someone of sturdy stature. On the sidestand, the bike is fairly upright - so you do need to be thoughtful when parking. Susan has not had any cutting & welding on either stand and has managed fine for 2 years riding it.
    Paul
    Last edited by pgods; 06-28-2007 at 12:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    His girlfriend might not like that.

    Fred
    - sorry - girlfriend

    Michele
    Alain & Michele in Western Iowa
    '08 K1200GT(his) -- '09 Ducati Monster 696(hers)

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    Another option

    My wife just sold her F650GS and was looking at the R1200R but instead went for the F800ST. With the lower weight and the low seat she manages the bike great. we also installed more upright bars making it more comfortable for distance riding. then again the R1200R is a great bike!!!!
    R1200RT, R1100RTP, R1150GSA, F800ST, DR200

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    Quote Originally Posted by wlpmd View Post
    My wife just sold her F650GS and was looking at the R1200R but instead went for the F800ST. With the lower weight and the low seat she manages the bike great. we also installed more upright bars making it more comfortable for distance riding. then again the R1200R is a great bike!!!!
    Michele here - I sat on the F800ST and it was so tall - 31.1 inches! The low seat on the R1200R was much lower (30.3 inches) and with a lowering kit I think it will work out fine - believe me, that 1 inch makes all the difference in the world, especially if I already have to lower it to make it fit. I just don't get why BMW has to have their seat heights for giants - us midgets like to ride too
    Alain & Michele in Western Iowa
    '08 K1200GT(his) -- '09 Ducati Monster 696(hers)

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    pgods
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    girlfriend here...

    girlfriend, wife....at this point it's one in the same.

    Just a chime in to concur that I absolutely love my bike. I could not get my feet down but in addition to the lowered saddle and bike, I wear heeled boots and that helped. I was quite adamant about having flat feet until one day, hand on throttle, I was ready to ride, when Paul said "do you want to change your shoes?" and I looked down to find I was in my hiking shoes without having even noticed. Once you're used to it, it doesn't matter as much. I used to ride a Honda Shadow 650 - my R1150R changed my riding altogether. As an aside, I also recommend the touring windshield.

    And then.....you may find your husband has a hard time keeping up with you!

    Susan
    Last edited by pgods; 06-28-2007 at 11:26 AM.

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    I lowere my 1200 RT by an inch w new shocks. Expensive, but it works great.

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