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OldAndBusted
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oh what i'd give to have an R12. i think those may be the most beautiful bikes ever.
i have a '55 R50 myself.
bmwdean
BMW MOA co-founder
Very pretty bike, yes:
<img width=800 src=http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/photos/photophotos/1935%20R12.jpg>
But I would have to vote the R68 the most beautiful BMW ever:
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rbfrey
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1935 R12 and 1937 R6 combination. For me, these are the most aesthetically pleasing of all BMW. The plunger frames are almost as good, but I think the hardtail models are better looking.
1935 R12
1937 R6 + Royal
I also have a 1936 R5 and 1938 R71 in the project stage.
Someday I may get a modern bike.
Cheers,
Bruce
SmokeEater
Apeman
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BOKRIJDER
Guest
R50/2 project - How it all begins
The R50/2 in preparation for the work table. http://mjstone.smugmug.com/
I've added captions to the photos which may of some assistance to others selecting a vintage BMW for restoration or renovation. Though this bike looks rough, it is in fact a bike which will return to a very nice original unrestored appearance.
I would note that due to an engine failure while touring in Spain in 1970 and a hasty engine replacement, the engine and frame serial numbers do not match. This will forever condemn it to second class citizenship. Keep this in mind if purchasing.
In any case a good rider.
As buying and restoring thoughts come to mind, I'll update photos, captions, and bump the post.
There are additional galleries some may find interesting. I do enjoy projects.
http://mjstone.smugmug.com/
Motard
The R50/2 in preparation for the work table. http://mjstone.smugmug.com/
I've added captions to the photos which may of some assistance to others selecting a vintage BMW for restoration or renovation. Though this bike looks rough, it is in fact a bike which will return to a very nice original unrestored appearance.
I would note that due to an engine failure while touring in Spain in 1970 and a hasty engine replacement, the engine and frame serial numbers do not match. This will forever condemn it to second class citizenship. Keep this in mind if purchasing.
In any case a good rider.
As buying and restoring thoughts come to mind, I'll update photos, captions, and bump the post.
There are additional galleries some may find interesting. I do enjoy projects.
http://mjstone.smugmug.com/
Motard
bmwdean
BMW MOA co-founder
Second-class citizen?
This bike is nearly 100% unrestored original:
http://jeff.dean.home.att.net/weiss.jpg
However, the engine and frame numbers do not match. Why? Because the original owner had the engine replaced under warranty one month from the date he purchased it (I have tons of documentation). Does that make this a second-class citizen? Not in my book! It just adds to the history of this bike.
This bike is nearly 100% unrestored original:
http://jeff.dean.home.att.net/weiss.jpg
However, the engine and frame numbers do not match. Why? Because the original owner had the engine replaced under warranty one month from the date he purchased it (I have tons of documentation). Does that make this a second-class citizen? Not in my book! It just adds to the history of this bike.
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BOKRIJDER
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Jeff,
Excuse me, I was intending no reflection on your bike. My intention is only pointing out many considerations which can play out involving a restoration with a specific goal in mind. I have heard the term matching serial numbers tossed about too often to believe that if one where to make the considerable investment in doing a show level restoration only to have the discrepancy noted at the first showing there would be potential for disappointment. Right or wrong, sometimes the very critical eye of the gallery is most unforgiving.
A case in point, the R50 originally belonged to the new owner of the R69S. He approached me about doing a show quality restoration on the R50. The bike was surveyed and a report given. I suggested that he do a bit of soul searching, local research, and defining of his goals. He discovered that the R69S, particularly in Germany, was much more desirable than the R50 and the serial number issue in his intended usage did matter. The investment required in completing either bike was very close.
The R50/2 will be allowed to retain its patina and I like patina. That's why she's staying home.
Best
Motard
Excuse me, I was intending no reflection on your bike. My intention is only pointing out many considerations which can play out involving a restoration with a specific goal in mind. I have heard the term matching serial numbers tossed about too often to believe that if one where to make the considerable investment in doing a show level restoration only to have the discrepancy noted at the first showing there would be potential for disappointment. Right or wrong, sometimes the very critical eye of the gallery is most unforgiving.
A case in point, the R50 originally belonged to the new owner of the R69S. He approached me about doing a show quality restoration on the R50. The bike was surveyed and a report given. I suggested that he do a bit of soul searching, local research, and defining of his goals. He discovered that the R69S, particularly in Germany, was much more desirable than the R50 and the serial number issue in his intended usage did matter. The investment required in completing either bike was very close.
The R50/2 will be allowed to retain its patina and I like patina. That's why she's staying home.
Best
Motard
bmwdean
BMW MOA co-founder
Yes, riding the old bikes from the 1960s is a lot of fun. A definite "hoot."
Consider adding Hella bar-end turn signals and amaze your friends and drivers with the funkiest turn signals around:
<img border=1 src=http://en.citizendium.org:8080/images/c/ce/Bar-end-signal.jpg>
They are readily available from Craig Vechorik:
http://members.aol.com/vechbmw2/signal.html
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Baile82604
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Wyoming
I bought a 1958 R60 (Act R69, thanks Vech) at an auction on behalf of my late Beemer junkie, Rally Rat Dad...for $ 450.00. Its kinda crusty, pics when I learn how to post them....Has 2000 miles on it...and still has 2000 miles on it (speedo).
It sat in dads garage for years. After he died, it made it to my garage. After hovering over it like a vultur near rotten meat, I finally attacked it. It was a no starter....pulled the carbs, sent 'em off for a rebuild. When I installed them...I wish I could been one of those first kick and start stories...but it was more like many kicks and a smokers hack. First a putt, then a putt putt (along with several
mule kicking kickbacks)...then she is a running. I take her out from time to time, but need to rewire her.
Many blessings to those who restore. All nice bikes. I do like mine looking kinda rough, though. But each time I work on something, my confidence builds. My 80RT helps here too, as she was another rescue mission story.
Wyoming is waiting for you all. This ought to be quite fun! Maybe I'll bring her up.
Michael A. Bailey
aka Scharppslicer (Scharppslicer@cs.com)
aka Swordofwords
I bought a 1958 R60 (Act R69, thanks Vech) at an auction on behalf of my late Beemer junkie, Rally Rat Dad...for $ 450.00. Its kinda crusty, pics when I learn how to post them....Has 2000 miles on it...and still has 2000 miles on it (speedo).
It sat in dads garage for years. After he died, it made it to my garage. After hovering over it like a vultur near rotten meat, I finally attacked it. It was a no starter....pulled the carbs, sent 'em off for a rebuild. When I installed them...I wish I could been one of those first kick and start stories...but it was more like many kicks and a smokers hack. First a putt, then a putt putt (along with several
mule kicking kickbacks)...then she is a running. I take her out from time to time, but need to rewire her.
Many blessings to those who restore. All nice bikes. I do like mine looking kinda rough, though. But each time I work on something, my confidence builds. My 80RT helps here too, as she was another rescue mission story.
Wyoming is waiting for you all. This ought to be quite fun! Maybe I'll bring her up.
Michael A. Bailey
aka Scharppslicer (Scharppslicer@cs.com)
aka Swordofwords
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BOKRIJDER
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Baile82604
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1958 R69 (Vechified)
It was bought at an auction as a R60, but Vech after explaining to me that it was "not a choke" but a spark advance and made me look the number on the engine, and it is a R69.
Now as a woosie little scardie cat, I've pulled the fron cover to replace the spark plug wires, not having aclue, but the mchines will make you do it right themselves, and make youfeel like a mechanic....LOL
I also just bough a 77 75/7 wityh a volorex sidecare. Adventure(s) continue.
Back to work. Thanks
Scharppslicer
Casper Wyoming
K100LT (87)
80RT (83)
R69 (58)
R75/7 w/velorex (77)
It was bought at an auction as a R60, but Vech after explaining to me that it was "not a choke" but a spark advance and made me look the number on the engine, and it is a R69.
Now as a woosie little scardie cat, I've pulled the fron cover to replace the spark plug wires, not having aclue, but the mchines will make you do it right themselves, and make youfeel like a mechanic....LOL
I also just bough a 77 75/7 wityh a volorex sidecare. Adventure(s) continue.
Back to work. Thanks
Scharppslicer
Casper Wyoming
K100LT (87)
80RT (83)
R69 (58)
R75/7 w/velorex (77)
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zsnider
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I own a 1966 r50
AnnapolisAirhead
--Tony
Hah! I know the feeling, but don't let 'em stare ya down. You can do this!
(alternatively, you could cave-in and just ship the R69S and all the parts to me...heh!)
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DEDGCOMB141129
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Hah! I know the feeling, but don't em stare ya down. You can do this!
(alternatively, you could cave-in and just ship the R69S and all the parts to me...heh!)
Six months after that first post, she came to life. She's been running fine since, little tweaks here and there.
Thanks for the offer, but for now, I think the parts are going to stay a bit closer to home!!
