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    Akron and Indy area Boxflyer WetHead/ShiftHead Tech Days

    Akron and Indy area Boxflyer WetHead/ShiftHead Tech Days

    What:
    WetHead/ShiftHead 12k Service Demonstration Tech Days

    How Much Admission:
    FREE! PLEASE Reply to this thread if you plan to attend and at which location.
    We need a firm head count for lunch portions.

    When:
    Saturday, July 23, 2022 Akron, OH area
    Sunday, July 24, 2022 Indianapolis, IN area

    Where:
    Akron, OH. Area 7/23
    Pilz Machine
    5091 Massillon Rd.
    North Canton, OH 44720

    Indianapolis, IN. area 7/24
    Fishers, IN 46037
    PM Boxflyer for address

    https://forums.bmwmoa.org/member.php?47645-Boxflyer

    Schedule:
    0800-0830 Opening introduction / coffee / donuts Show and Tell
    0830-1100 12k Service to include body panel removal for air filter replacement SpeedBleeder brake bleeder install and complete brake service Cam Timing Check and Valve Clearance Check.
    1100-1130 Lunch: (--Donation for lunch appreciated--)
    Akron: Pulled pork, baked beans, potato salad
    Indy: Bratwurst and fixin's
    1130-1600 Final Drive/Spline Lube, Continuation of 12k service with GS-911 Reset of Adaptation Values and Service Interval Light on Display.

    Notes:
    --No Rain Date-- Event takes place rain or shine
    If raining, inside parking for about 10 bikes at the Saturday event only. Car parking available

    Boxflyer Cam Timing Tools Available for Purchase on site. (limited numbers available)

    Various FREE handouts available to include:
    --WetHead/ShiftHead Cam Timing/Valve Clearance Worksheet
    --WetHead/ShiftHead Torque List
    --WetHead/ShiftHead Accessories / Parts / Service Spreadsheet
    --Boxflyer Boards Print outs for foam core board mounting on your own board
    --Tool Kit carried on RT bike Spreadsheet

    PLEASE-- reply here if you plan on attending, and at which location, so we can have an accurate head count for food/drink at morning wake-up snack and lunch.

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    Thumbs up Attending at the Akron location

    Sounds like an enormous learning opportunity. I plan to attend at the Akron location.

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    Thank you!
    I'll have some files and worksheets to hand out as well as I'm bringing pulled pork for lunch!

    Please PM your name and total number attending to me.

    Boxflyer
    Brad

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    Brad, sounds like a great day, thanks for doing this. Having a '21 shift cam I'm very interested in learning how to maintain valves etc, hopefully you will repeat this in the future and I would very much like to attend.

    I noticed in your itinerary you mention "resetting the adaptive values", is that a requirement per BMW service data or something you just do as a matter of course? I would not have thought that a valve clearance check would warrant resetting of these values, curious is all.
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    @jandhumphreyme
    It's less than a half day ride from Maine to Rhode Island and we can do a Tech Day on YOUR bike.

    I agree with you that adjusting the valves does not constitute enough of a major change for the ECU to handle, but sometimes changing the position of the Cam Timing Input can cause the bike to need extra time to balance out stored values, for the current state of tune.

    This part of the Tech Day is more to expose folks to some of the deeper less used menus in the GS-911's software.
    I do all these Adaptive Value Resets at almost every 12k service on my own bike and really only see any difference with the Transmission Reset. I think this is because it's mounted externally and is exposed to more wear and tear that allows small changes in the relative positions of the linkages. Resetting Mixture, Twistgrip, and Throttle position don't seem to have the same noticeable improvement that I sometimes feel with the Transmission Value Reset.

    Hope we get to ride or wrench together sometime, and thanks for pointing out what someone may have misconstrued as a normal procedure, is really just a teaching point on my part.

    Brad

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    7/23 Tech Demo Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Boxflyer View Post
    Akron and Indy area Boxflyer WetHead/ShiftHead Tech Days

    What:
    WetHead/ShiftHead 12k Service Demonstration Tech Days

    How Much Admission:
    FREE! PLEASE Reply to this thread if you plan to attend and at which location.
    We need a firm head count for lunch portions.

    When:
    Saturday, July 23, 2022 Akron, OH area
    Sunday, July 24, 2022 Indianapolis, IN area

    Where:
    Akron, OH. Area 7/23
    Pilz Machine
    5091 Massillon Rd.
    North Canton, OH 44720

    Indianapolis, IN. area 7/24
    Fishers, IN 46037
    PM Boxflyer for address

    https://forums.bmwmoa.org/member.php?47645-Boxflyer

    Schedule:
    0800-0830 Opening introduction / coffee / donuts Show and Tell
    0830-1100 12k Service to include body panel removal for air filter replacement SpeedBleeder brake bleeder install and complete brake service Cam Timing Check and Valve Clearance Check.
    1100-1130 Lunch: (--Donation for lunch appreciated--)
    Akron: Pulled pork, baked beans, potato salad
    Indy: Bratwurst and fixin's
    1130-1600 Final Drive/Spline Lube, Continuation of 12k service with GS-911 Reset of Adaptation Values and Service Interval Light on Display.

    Notes:
    --No Rain Date-- Event takes place rain or shine
    If raining, inside parking for about 10 bikes at the Saturday event only. Car parking available

    Boxflyer Cam Timing Tools Available for Purchase on site. (limited numbers available)

    Various FREE handouts available to include:
    --WetHead/ShiftHead Cam Timing/Valve Clearance Worksheet
    --WetHead/ShiftHead Torque List
    --WetHead/ShiftHead Accessories / Parts / Service Spreadsheet
    --Boxflyer Boards Print outs for foam core board mounting on your own board
    --Tool Kit carried on RT bike Spreadsheet

    PLEASE-- reply here if you plan on attending, and at which location, so we can have an accurate head count for food/drink at morning wake-up snack and lunch.
    I would love to attend this event in Akron if there are still spaces available! Please advise. Thanks. Larry.

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    Hi Larry,
    Yes there is no problem with space or number of attendees.

    PM me if you don't want to put your name here, and confirm how many will attend with you, for lunch head count.

    Brad Smith
    Boxflyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxflyer View Post
    @jandhumphreyme
    It's less than a half day ride from Maine to Rhode Island and we can do a Tech Day on YOUR bike.

    I agree with you that adjusting the valves does not constitute enough of a major change for the ECU to handle, but sometimes changing the position of the Cam Timing Input can cause the bike to need extra time to balance out stored values, for the current state of tune.

    This part of the Tech Day is more to expose folks to some of the deeper less used menus in the GS-911's software.
    I do all these Adaptive Value Resets at almost every 12k service on my own bike and really only see any difference with the Transmission Reset. I think this is because it's mounted externally and is exposed to more wear and tear that allows small changes in the relative positions of the linkages. Resetting Mixture, Twistgrip, and Throttle position don't seem to have the same noticeable improvement that I sometimes feel with the Transmission Value Reset.

    Hope we get to ride or wrench together sometime, and thanks for pointing out what someone may have misconstrued as a normal procedure, is really just a teaching point on my part.

    Brad
    Brad,
    That's a very generous offer, thank you. I'm about 1k away from the 12k milestone on my '21 RT I'll keep in touch with you and see if we can work something out.

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    Boxflyer - Thanks so much for your selfless effort and the time and expense you put into these tech days and to helping fellow Water-Cooler riders!
    Ken Insley: Ride fast enough that you can't take your mind off riding, but not so fast that you worry about crashing Everyone's pace is different, find your pace and ride it. You'll be stressed if you ride too fast and bored/distracted if you ride to slow.

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    Here is the UPDATED/REVISED Schedule

    It now features BOTH a 1250 and 1200 Cam and Valve Service at the Indy TechDay Event.

    Schedule :

    0800-0830

    Opening introduction / coffee / donuts Show and Tell


    0830-1100

    12k Service to include body panel removal for air filter replacement
    SpeedBleeder brake bleeder install and complete brake service
    Final Drive service/Spline Lube


    1100-1130 Lunch: (--Donation for lunch appreciated--)

    Akron: Pulled pork, baked beans, potato salad
    Indy: Bratwurst and fixin's


    1130 - 1300 (Akron, Oh Location)

    1200 Cam Timing Check and Valve Clearance Check


    BONUS - Both 1200 & 1250 at Indy location.

    1130-1300 ** Indy Location only**

    1250 Cam Timing Check and Valve Clearance Check


    1300-1400 ** Indy Location Only**

    1200 Cam Timing Check and Valve Clearance Check


    1400-1500

    Continuation of 12k service with GS-911 Reset of adaptation Values and Service Interval Light on Display.

    Please PM me here on this Forum with your interest in attending either event so I can make sure there is enough food for lunch.
    Brad

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    Well attendees , those of us unable to attend would like some feedback . like your Dr. on a scale off 1-10,,,, let us know with comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramble View Post
    Well attendees , those of us unable to attend would like some feedback . like your Dr. on a scale off 1-10,,,, let us know with comments.
    Both events went well! Scenes from Indy:

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    Ken Insley: Ride fast enough that you can't take your mind off riding, but not so fast that you worry about crashing Everyone's pace is different, find your pace and ride it. You'll be stressed if you ride too fast and bored/distracted if you ride to slow.

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    And some photos from Saturday's Akron event:
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    Ken Insley: Ride fast enough that you can't take your mind off riding, but not so fast that you worry about crashing Everyone's pace is different, find your pace and ride it. You'll be stressed if you ride too fast and bored/distracted if you ride to slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramble View Post
    Well attendees , those of us unable to attend would like some feedback . like your Dr. on a scale off 1-10,,,, let us know with comments.
    Soooo much to take in. Boxflyer did an excellent presentation on how to maintain these wetheads.

    and of course, what would a gathering be without food?

    Akron event
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    Thanks for the recap. Wish I could have made it.

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