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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Some riders even neglect their BMWs like that too.
    Well, given that it is a Japanese bike, other than consumables like brake fluid and oil/air filters, imo that’s not true neglect. But the bike would sure last longer if the correct maintenance were performed. Yet most rider seem to sell their bikes before any problems arise.

    Frankly, I do not trust used bikes with no records. I got burned once really bad on a K12RS because I didn’t check with the dealer that originally sold the bike. Had I read him the VIN I would have learned that the Previous Owner did the 2-gasket boo-boo when changing the oil for the first time. The engine blew and the dealer did know what happened but the bike received a long-block replacement motor anyway, after which, I bought it. Learned my lesson on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visian View Post
    Well, given that it is a Japanese bike, other than consumables like brake fluid and oil/air filters, imo that’s not true neglect. But the bike would sure last longer if the correct maintenance were performed. Yet most rider seem to sell their bikes before any problems arise.

    Frankly, I do not trust used bikes with no records.
    Being an experienced Neglected Bike Adopter, I've had quite a few experiences validating your mistrust of used bikes with no records...I have owned at least three Japanese bikes that got treated far worse than the FJR mentioned further up in the thread. My R850R, before I rescued the poor thing, was almost as bad as the worst of those.
    I'll mention just one, the bike I sold to buy my 850: a 2002 Kawasaki ZG1000 Concours. That bike was owned by a frankly dangerous "home mechanic" who worked without the hindrance () of a workshop manual or torque wrenches. He owned the bike for 8 years.

    He rode it for 8 years, in the mountains of north Georgia and beyond, with a non-working speedometer/odometer due to a broken cable, and I'm pretty certain he never once changed the rear brake fluid. The speedo cable is a $15 part. He estimated that he put ten thousand miles on that machine while having no clue what speed he was going, or how far he had gone. When I went to replace the rear brake fluid, it was completely opaque and disgustingly cloudy, and I couldn't get it to flow despite opening the bleed screw until I shoved down on the pedal and a plug of crud POPPED out of the bleed nipple.
    I later did a valve adjustment and had to adjust every valve on that poor thing. He had broken off part of the mounting antler for the right saddlebag and rather than dip into the sea of cheap Ebay replacements he instead drilled holes in the saddlebag and screwed it to the mount using self-tapping metal screws. He had also chopped off the factory mufflers and, using a flux-core wire-feed welder, had wired a pair of direct-from-China fake carbon fiber mufflers with extensions to the factory headers. He did this with the whole assembly mounted to the bike and couldn't reach the inner side of either muffler to weld them, so he only welded them about 3/4 of the way around and did the rest with JB-Weld. I could tell it was a flux-core wire-feed welder because of all the pieces of flux-core welding wire still stuck to the welds. Not only were these mufflers disgustingly loud, he had also put the mufflers so high up that they started melting the bottoms of the saddlebags and had made a hole in the lid of the right one.
    He broke the coolant expansion tank during some other attempt at repair and tried to fix it with JB-Weld, then broke it again while installing it. He then used duct tape to try to further repair it, which of course led to it leaking once I was the unfortunate owner of the machine.

    That's not all of it, but that's all I feel like typing right now. Some motorcycles live very sad lives, and their owners live very dangerous lives. That was certainly true for that machine.
    Owner of the saddest 1997 R850R you ever did see, and a less-sad 1996 R1100RT.

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