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    G650GS: melted throttle cable … how that happened?

    I experienced the strangest thing in my life motoring life of 20 odd years. The recently purchased battery of my 2013 BMW G650GS, which I bought used last week, went completely dead while I was riding it last night. I will use a multi-meter to check whether the stator is the issue. Anyway, this afternoon, I used a smart battery charger to slow charge the battery. I connected the positive clamp to the positive battery post and negative clamp to the negative post. A few hours later, I check on the charger, it indicated the battery was fully charged. I took the clamps off. Started with the key and the G650GS started normally, except I found out that I could not rev up the throttle. The reason was the throttle cable’s outer jacket was melted, melted along the entire length of the cable. I thought it was because of the way I connected the charging posts but there was no sign of anywhere around the two post areas melting. I thought it might be the heat from the radiator underneath the speedometer console, once again nothing else showed signs of heat burn, rubber/plastic hardening, or smell. It’s just the throttle cable. Check out my attached photos. I am asking for your help, if you have experienced something like this, please share your stories and how you solved the problem. I’d love to learn what can cause such isolated damage. Thank you.

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    I believe you have a wire directly shorting to the steel outter jacket of the throttle cable.
    So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains
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    Welcome to the forum!
    No doubt something got crossed up and heated the throttle cable to the point the covering melted. Why, I can’t guess.
    I can recommend once you get it sorted, using a fused SAE connector directly to the battery for accessory 12V access. From your excellent pictures I can see that battery access I similar to my F800GS and IMO, a lot can go wrong with that system.
    Electric current, for the most part, takes the path of least resistance. Let us know what you find.
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    I agree - there's a bare wire somewhere that's it's not supposed to be. I'd also just double check your battery charger wires. Unlikely, but I suppose if you had a bare section that laid just perfectly on the throttle cable while you were charging, it also could had this effect.

    These bikes are notoriously hard on batteries (low air flow, sitting on top of a hot engine, behind the radiator, next to the oil tank), so don't be surprised if you need a new one or need to top off the electrolyte often.
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    I will simply add that this could have easily become a fire.
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    Smile Battery connection is the cause

    Thank you all for taking the time to reply. All of you hit the mark. It seems to be caused by the battery connections. I was afraid it might have been caused by an overheated engine or its cooling system.

    After taking the left tank plastic out to inspect, I think I found what caused the melting. It is something to do with either the battery wiring or how I charged it. I’ve made a video and will share it after editing.

    One more thing. I am new to motorcycle ownership. Where do you guys buy your parts? I live in Calgary and I try not to buy from the dealership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alford7@yahoo.com View Post
    One more thing. I am new to motorcycle ownership. Where do you guys buy your parts? I live in Calgary and I try not to buy from the dealership.
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    It melt all the way to the right handlebar. So I guess the 'short' happened right there.

    There is the kill switch which is connected directly to the battery through the ignition switch. Maybe the kill switch or its wire from the ignition switch (not fused typically) touched the throttle gear or the handlebar?

    When the knew throttle cable is installed I would also check the wires to the kill switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alford7@yahoo.com View Post

    One more thing. I am new to motorcycle ownership. Where do you guys buy your parts? I live in Calgary and I try not to buy from the dealership.
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    The only times I've seen melting like that, lightning was involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkraus View Post
    The only times I've seen melting like that, lightning was involved.
    It is very strange, it would take some amps to cause that level of heating required to melt the jacketing.
    So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains
    And we never even know we have the key

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