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    Riding Modes and Integrated brakes?

    It is my understanding that the brakes on my 2017GSA are "integrated" i.e. - activating either the front or the rear also activates the other to some extent. It is also my understanding (not sure where I got this from) that the extent of the activation of the other brake varies denpeding on the riding mode - i.e. - in rain mode the amount applied to the rear vs the front is different than it would be in Dynamic Mode.

    So, as far as I can figure out, this means that I cannot do trail braking into curves?

    If the GSA is in Enduro, or Enduro Pro, modes are the brakes still integrated? Can I trail brake in Enduro modes (at least off road)?
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    I have a 2015 GSA, and it has integrated brakes, but they do not operate quite like you described. The brake pedal activates only the rear brake (not the front brakes). Using the brake lever activates the front brakes, and the back brake. Can't answer your other questions. Do you have the owner's manual for your bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobs_one View Post

    So, as far as I can figure out, this means that I cannot do trail braking into curves?
    One can always trail-brake into a curve - integrated or non-integrated brakes. You can trail-brake with the front brakes, or trail-brake with the rear. You can trail-brake with both front and rear together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craydds View Post
    One can always trail-brake into a curve - integrated or non-integrated brakes. You can trail-brake with the front brakes, or trail-brake with the rear. You can trail-brake with both front and rear together.
    But what do the integrated brakes actually do. I always believed that the hand lever applied front and rear but that the pedal only actuated the rear brakes. Who knows for sure for his bike: 2017 GSA
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    But what do the integrated brakes actually do. I always believed that the hand lever applied front and rear but that the pedal only actuated the rear brakes. Who knows for sure for his bike: 2017 GSA
    We are familiar with several bikes with LINKED brakes. The rear brake pedal works the rear brake and ONE front disc. The front brake lever works the TWO front discs and the rear brake.
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    Linked brakes can be fully or partially integrated. My 14 wethead RT is partially integrated, the front brake operates both front and rear. The rear pedal only operates the rear. My 02 RT had fully integrated brakes. The new RT 21/22 are also fully integrated but it also has software that helps to control braking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strataj View Post
    Linked brakes can be fully or partially integrated. My 14 wethead RT is partially integrated, the front brake operates both front and rear. The rear pedal only operates the rear. My 02 RT had fully integrated brakes. The new RT 21/22 are also fully integrated but it also has software that helps to control braking.
    So, is the OP 2017 GSA fully or partially integrated? Who knows??

    And, is the integration still applied if the ABS is turned off???
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    Rtfm

    OK, I should have read the manual more closely. it says:

    Anti-lock brake system (ABS)
    Partially integral brakes
    Your motorcycle is equipped with partially integral brakes. Both front and rear brakes are applied when you pull the handbrake lever. The footbrake lever acts only on the rear brake.

    Still not sure if the weighting between front brake and rear brake (when using hand lever) changes with riding modes or not.

    Anyway, I guess I can try to learn how to trail brake now.
    Bob
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    You’ll find some very good info here with regard to ABS, integral braking, Pro modes, etc. Scroll past the first dozen or so responses to get to what you’re looking for.

    https://advrider.com/f/threads/linke...stion.1497931/
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