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A bit of a backup at the Port of Los Angeles

A bit more from CBS Evening News-


I wonder if this will bring about another surplus in shipping containers? Last time things were lopsided, container ships returned without any empty containers as they couldn’t wait for the unloading.

OM
 
Add one more ship: the French transport for the JWST space telescope, to move it down to and through the Panama Canal. Hope it doesn't cause the JWST program yet another expensive delay. :usa
 
Totally off the wall but worth some thought - Just think of the havoc a few submarines could cause should some state actor decide to interrupt trade in the North Pacific.

We, the USA, have 39 Submarines to cover the entire Pacific and Indian Oceans.
Of those Submarines 1/3 are in Maintenance, 1/3 are in Pre-deployment training or Post-deployment stand down, and 1/3 are deployed or available for deployment.

Not a lot of available forces to cover the largest ocean in the world should someone decide to raise havoc.

Helps put the Australian/French situation in perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander,_Submarine_Force,_U.S._Pacific_Fleet
 
Omega Man said:
Last time things were lopsided, container ships returned without any empty containers as they couldn’t wait for the unloading.

OM
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Are you saying they unload some of the containers at the docks?
I figured all the containers were placed on trucks and rail cars and not unloaded until they arrived at distribution centers.
 
Lee said:
Are you saying they unload some of the containers at the docks?
I figured all the containers were placed on trucks and rail cars and not unloaded until they arrived at distribution centers.
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That’s the way it works except in a crunch time like now. They would “normally” send the ship back towards China with goods in the containers. Other containers would be sent back empty to be refilled (trade imbalance). This resulted in a surplus of containers, some “one trippers” which made renting or outright purchasing a container less costly.
Shipping containers are a great way to have instant, secure storage.

OM
 
bigjohnsd said:
Totally off the wall but worth some thought - Just think of the havoc a few submarines could cause should some state actor decide to interrupt trade in the North Pacific.

We, the USA, have 39 Submarines to cover the entire Pacific and Indian Oceans.
Of those Submarines 1/3 are in Maintenance, 1/3 are in Pre-deployment training or Post-deployment stand down, and 1/3 are deployed or available for deployment.

Not a lot of available forces to cover the largest ocean in the world should someone decide to raise havoc.

Helps put the Australian/French situation in perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander,_Submarine_Force,_U.S._Pacific_Fleet
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Time for Elon Must to step in and build a private submarine fleet.
 
Omega Man said:
That’s the way it works except in a crunch time like now. They would “normally” send the ship back towards China with goods in the containers. Other containers would be sent back empty to be refilled (trade imbalance).

OM
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Seven or eight years ago I was talking to a rider who runs one of the large cranes that unload container ships.
He said a lot of the containers he loaded onto ships were empty.
He mentioned the US is a major exporter of air :(
 
Omega Man said:
Seems like 40% of goods imported into the US come through the Port of Los Angeles -


OM
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I wonder what the percentage is for New York?
The container ship with our bikes went straight to the dock without any wait off shore.
That was Sep 28th.
The ship was only at the dock a day or two and then headed to Mexico.
 
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