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    BMW Motorrad Updates...Lots of Detail

    I just saw this in an email, looked at it some, and am passing it along: https://ridermagazine.com/2021/07/05...240C8840912J7U
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    As ExGMan states, lot's of detail indeed!

    Although carrying a gold finish I note that the brake calipers on the RT shown do NOT include the name Brembo on them.

    I see that the RT description includes "active cruise control". I dunno; we've got that on the wife's Benz. I'm not sold on it as being that much of an improvement over the dumber system on other cars and bikes. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    As ExGMan states, lot's of detail indeed!

    Although carrying a gold finish I note that the brake calipers on the RT shown do NOT include the name Brembo on them.

    I see that the RT description includes "active cruise control". I dunno; we've got that on the wife's Benz. I'm not sold on it as being that much of an improvement over the dumber system on other cars and bikes. YMMV.
    MM does V Have it on the GLE and I like it- I find long trips a little less tiring...however- not sure I'd want it on a bike...not entirely sure why- fear of overconfident distraction? So as far as the bike goes...I agree. Could be cool for some folks though.

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    There is a 2021 RT with gold brakes in the local showroom, says brembo on the side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdfbeemer View Post
    There is a 2021 RT with gold brakes in the local showroom, says brembo on the side.
    Good! I'm happy to be wrong on this point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdfbeemer View Post
    There is a 2021 RT with gold brakes in the local showroom, says brembo on the side.
    Dealers are replacing the Hayes calipers for Brembo.
    Not sure what the calipers are in the 2022 RT pictures.
    They don't look like Hayes or Brembo.
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    Interesting how many models in the current range use outsourced drivetrains.
    For the 3 engines still assembled by BMW, I wonder where those parts come from?
    Not a big deal, lots of companies are outsourcing these days to cut cost.
    It would be nice if bike manufacturers reported content sourcing like cars, though.

    Also, no 1600?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Dealers are replacing the Hayes calipers for Brembo.
    Not sure what the calipers are in the 2022 RT pictures.
    They don't look like Hayes or Brembo.
    Here's a PNG of the 2022 R1250RS front brake:

    Screen Shot 2021-07-10 at 11.40.37 AM.png

    ...and then a PNG of the 2022 RT front brake:

    Screen Shot 2021-07-10 at 11.40.19 AM.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    Here's a PNG of the 2022 R1250RS front brake:

    Screen Shot 2021-07-10 at 11.40.37 AM.png

    ...and then a PNG of the 2022 RT front brake:

    Screen Shot 2021-07-10 at 11.40.19 AM.png
    Hard to say who makes that RT caliper.
    Maybe someone will recognize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Hard to say who makes that RT caliper.
    Maybe someone will recognize it.
    Well….. I hope they chose the “NoLeaky caliper Co.”. Going goofy with another caliper recall may lose some of the faithful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Hard to say who makes that RT caliper.
    Maybe someone will recognize it.
    This may be an ominous clue. I found this by Googling "Motorcycle Brake Calipers":

    Screen Shot 2021-07-10 at 2.32.26 PM.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    This may be an ominous clue. I found this by Googling "Motorcycle Brake Calipers":

    Screen Shot 2021-07-10 at 2.32.26 PM.png
    Yep, your previous picture looks like a Hayes caliper without BMW written on it.

    Maybe the picture BMW used in the 2022 update link is a Euro picture.
    Seems strange they would use Brembo in the US and Hayes in other countries.
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    The brake thing is probably just a branding issue.
    BMW probably doesn’t want “Brembo” on the calipers any more than they want “TVS” or “Loncin” on the engine cases. Brembo might be big enough to argue the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldCamper View Post
    The brake thing is probably just a branding issue.
    BMW probably doesn’t want “Brembo” on the calipers any more than they want “TVS” or “Loncin” on the engine cases. Brembo might be big enough to argue the point.
    Having Brembo brakes rather than Hayes ought to be viewed as a selling point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    As ExGMan states, lot's of detail indeed!

    Although carrying a gold finish I note that the brake calipers on the RT shown do NOT include the name Brembo on them.

    I see that the RT description includes "active cruise control". I dunno; we've got that on the wife's Benz. I'm not sold on it as being that much of an improvement over the dumber system on other cars and bikes. YMMV.
    Regarding active cruise control ...

    I hate it as well, but the fact is it's easily considered a safety feature and if a safety feature exists it's going to be on BMW motorcycles. Liability. The old "what did he know and when did he know it" thing. BMW probably leads everyone in worrying about it's liability. The old no more SYSTEM helmets in the USA thing. It's basically a privately owned company so liability is clear.
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