Where to find official number of attendees?

How many officially attended this year?

In another thread the number was a little under 5,000.

Lee said:

In another thread the number was a little under 5,000.

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official number, from? Thanks

Lee said:

In another thread the number was a little under 5,000.

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What thread????????..........maybe a link???.........Were these PAID entrants????

DennisDarrow said:

What thread????????..........maybe a link???.........Were these PAID entrants????

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I don't remember which thread.
I asked and another member said near 5,000.
That was close enough for me. I trusted his answer and did not ask him to prove it.

DennisDarrow said:

What thread????????..........maybe a link???.........Were these PAID entrants????

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Post # 1,640 in this thread https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthrea...ule-(previous-2020-Great-Falls-Thread)/page41

Rumor has it 2 dogs and a cat managed to get in without paying

I'm not sure the ExpoPark could take more people. I think every single patch of grass had a tent on it. People were sleeping in tents on medians in the parking lot. it was impressive how many people were there. Whatever the number, it was "capacity" or felt like it to my eyes. I spent some time with the safety volunteers on Thursday and they were scrambling to find spots for people to pitch tents and park their bikes.

I wanted to throw up my drone but it was too close to the airport to be allowed. ...well I could have done it but I'm not sure I would want to face the consequences.

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Very cool and a nice touch
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Ted (Moyer) also told me that about 2500 of the attendees were "carryovers" who had originally registered for the 2020 rally and let their entry fee carry forward to the 2021 rally. About 500 or so 2020 registrants asked for a 2020 refund when the 2020 rally was canceled, and Ted didn't have a feel for how many -- if any -- of the 500 2020 cancellations re-registered as new 2021 registrations. Still, I agree with Adam, it was a great attendance! The tent camping areas were filled to near overflowing (I'm glad I had a hotel room!), the temperatures were near perfect, and the rains were very well behaved. I would have liked to have had the opportunity to peruse the offerings from more vendors, the vendors who did make the trip to GF were certainly busy answering questions and selling lots of "stuff".

BTW, I'm not complaining about the vendor selection. As someone who has hosted many, many bicycle rallies (including one scheduled for October 2021), I know how hard it is to put all the pieces together to pull of a major event. With the restrictions caused by the pandemic, I was amazed there were as many vendors @ GF as did show!

That’s still a good number. It was one of the best for me. I will keep it in my memories for a long time to come. Thanks to all that helped, volunteered and put this on. I myself helped out two time in the MOA store. I had a very good time and wonderful riding to and from the rally. The last 100 miles was in down poor rain and I loved it all. Thanks for all the reply’s.

I believe it was 4891, give or take a few.

What was the total in Lebanon again?

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What was the total in Lebanon again?

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I recorded it was 6018.

Westerners, used to riding long distances across the empty quarter often ride east. Easterners used to riding in less empty spaces often refuse to ride west. It is a pattern seen since the Loretta Linn rally.

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I recorded it was 6018.

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That's the number I saved.
I did not write down the number for Des Moines.
Seems like it was a little under 5,000. Anyone remember?

Des Moines was 4580.

The three highest that I have are:

2006 -- Essex Juntion Vermont -- 9200
2009 -- Johnson City, Tennessee -- 8972
2005 -- Lima, Ohio -- 8298

The highest one that is in the west is 2001 Redmond, Oregon, at 6677. That is among the top eight so far. Pretty good for west coaster!!

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Des Moines was 4580.

The three highest that I have are:

2006 -- Essex Juntion Vermont -- 9200
2009 -- Johnson City, Tennessee -- 8972
2005 -- Lima, Ohio -- 8298

The highest one that is in the west is 2001 Redmond, Oregon, at 6677. That is among the top eight so far. Pretty good for west coaster!!

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I'm actually pretty intrigued to see the variation. If someone with archival of last 25 years can send me location + count, I'd like to do some mapping of this. Someone at the rally complained to me that it seems there are never any southern rallies..they acknowledged the heat but added that a lot of people live in Southern California, Texas, florida so why so many "north rallies"?

I'd like to produce a map that plots out rally locations then an additional filter for attendance. it won't take economic recessions into account but it would, through data, give us an idea what areas have never seen a rally and which areas had the most attendance purely just something of a curiosity .

...maybe I can get data from the MOA to combine that with a heat map of where our members are physically located?

Just me being curious, nothing official.

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I'm actually pretty intrigued to see the variation. If someone with archival of last 25 years can send me location + count, I'd like to do some mapping of this. Someone at the rally complained to me that it seems there are never any southern rallies..they acknowledged the heat but added that a lot of people live in Southern California, Texas, florida so why so many "north rallies"?

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Except for the Texas rally they were always in July. Having a rally in a southern state mid July would be a bad idea.
I'm glad they finally gave up on July rallies and moved to June.

The weather for the Texas rally in June was pleasant if you don't count the flooding before the rally

If I remember right this was a mid week rally, Tues, Wed, Thu.
A mid week rally makes sense to me when I was working. Three days to ride to the rally, three days at the rally and threes days to ride home.
Nine day trip and only use five vacation days.

Adam -

Here's what I have been compiling over the years. Possibly not completely accurate, and in some cases I have a ? for an entry. Getting an update would be good. I used to have some webspace, but it disappeared along ago.

01 - 1973 - Morgan Hill, CALIFORNIA (fairground) -- 425
02 - 1974 - Table Rock, SOUTH CAROLINA (campground) -- 1001
03 - 1975 - Branson, MISSOURI (campground) -- 2096
04 - 1976 - Oshkosh, WISCONSIN (EAA airfield facility) -- 1820
05 - 1977 - Colorado Springs, COLORADO (a dude ranch!) -- 2389
06 - 1978 - Rutland, VERMONT (fairground) -- 3573
07 - 1979 - Brainerd, MINNESOTA (a racetrack!) -- 3276
08 - 1980 - Prineville, OREGON (fairground) -- 2575
09 - 1981 - Hurricane Mills, TENNESSEE (a dude ranch) -- 6122
10 - 1982 - Shreve, OHIO (campground) -- 4478
11 - 1983 - Lake Placid, NEW YORK (a horse show grounds) -- 5301
12 - 1984 - Missoula, MONTANA (fairground) - 3733
13 - 1985 - Lake Wales, FLORIDA (resort) -- 2270
14 - 1986 - Laguna Seca, CALIFORNIA (THE motorcycle raceway) -- 3472
15 - 1987 - Escanaba, MICHIGAN (fairground) -- 6110
16 - 1988 - Madison, INDIANA (fairground) -- 5637
17 - 1989 - York, PENNSYLVANIA (fairground) -- 7060
18 - 1990 - Rapid City, SOUTH DAKOTA (fairground) -- 4105
19 - 1991 - Flagstaff, ARIZONA (fairground) -- 4544
20 - 1992 - DuQuoin, ILLINOIS (fairground) -- 5895
21 - 1993 - Oshkosh, WISCONSIN (fairground) -- 5576
22 - 1994 - Moodus, CONNECTICUT (resort) -- 5627
23 - 1995 - Durango, COLORADO (fairground) -- 6137
24 - 1996 - Morganton, NORTH CAROLINA (fairground) -- 5904
25 - 1997 - Fredricksburg, TEXAS (municipal park) -- 3826
26 - 1998 - Missoula, MONTANA (fairground) -- 6050
27 - 1999 - Rhinebeck, NEW YORK (fairground) -- 6440
28 - 2000 - Midland, MICHIGAN (fairground) -- 6188
29 - 2001 - Redmond, OREGON (fairground) -- 6677
30 - 2002 - Trenton, ONTARIO (city park – a LARGE city park!) -- 568
31 - 2003 - Charleston, WEST VIRGINIA (an ‘in town’ Civic Center) -- 7198
32 - 2004 - Spokane, WASHINGTON (fairground) -- 6187
33 - 2005 - Lima, OHIO (fairground) -- 8298
34 - 2006 – Essex Junction, VERMONT (exposition center) -- 9200
35 - 2007 - West Bend, WISCONSIN (county park) -- 7875
36 - 2008 - Gillette, WYOMING (multi-event facility) -- 5000?
37 - 2009 - Johnson City, TENNESSEE (fairgrounds) -- 8972
38 - 2010 - Redmond, OREGON (expo center) -- 6109
39 - 2011 - Bloomsburg, PENNSYLVANIA (fair grounds) -- 7330
40 - 2012 - Sedalia, MISSOURI (fair grounds) -- 5295
41 - 2013 - Salem, OREGON (fair grounds) -- 5100
42 - 2014 - St. Paul, MINNESOTA (fair grounds) -- 5866
43 - 2015 - Billings, MONTANA (expo center) – 5100 (correct?)
44 – 2016 – Hamburg, NEW YORK (fair grounds) -- 6100
45 – 2017 – Salt Lake City, UTAH (fair grounds) -- 4206
46 – 2018 – Des Moines, IOWA (fair grounds) -- 4580
47 – 2019 – Lebanon, TENNESSEE (exposition center) -- 6018
– 2020 – Great Falls, MONTANA (expo park) -- cancelled due to COVID-19
48 – 2021 – Great Falls, MONTANA (expo park) -- 4889