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    Question Bad Advice - 1997 F650

    Brother is looking at 1997 F650, first BMW and (first ride as adult)

    They want $1,900, which I said seems high, but they have new tires, trunk and saddle bags.

    Then he said it has 19k and I said "keep looking!"

    Did I give my brother bad advice? Would you buy, haggle, or pass?

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    I got mine for $2k last year. Similar set up with 2x miles. It needed a little bit of work and I was riding it right away. Itís hard to find a road-capable adventure bike thatís simple to maintain and with a proven engine platform.

    Value is in the eye of the beholder.


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    I would have said that was a decent buy with low miles. My buddy bought one new and he's still flogging it around with minimal issues. Not a bad machine with a terrible name. Who thought "Funduro" was catchy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skibum69 View Post
    I would have said that was a decent buy with low miles. My buddy bought one new and he's still flogging it around with minimal issues. Not a bad machine with a terrible name. Who thought "Funduro" was catchy?
    I agree. We had two of them. I bought one new and put 66,600 miles on it. We bought a red one for Voni later. It had 27,000 miles on it when she bought it and 55,500 when we sold it. The only maintenance on either bike was all routine maintenance, chains and sprockets, tires, and steering head bearings once on mine at about 60,000 miles. We used them for our second trip to and from Alaska. We sold them both as a pair to the same buyer.

    The mileage at 19,000 miles is low mileage. Assuming decent maintenance I think the asking price is not out of line at all. The only downside is the carburetors (yes - 2 of them for one cylinder) rather than fuel injection.
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    The F650 is a great first bike and depending on the type of luggage it could be a great deal.
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    Thumbs up Thanks All!

    Thanks all for setting me straight! We're off to NH this weekend to look at the bike.

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    Good luck!
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    Alternate Winner

    Just before the weekend the seller let my brother know he got a better offer and bike was gone

    But nearby we found a 2001 F650GS with OEM panniers and 17k miles. Was able to get price down to $2,300 based on some leaking fluids and soft brakes.
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    Brakes were easy fix, the fluid was shot and a full changeover brought them back to life.(See brown pasty fluid that came out. Yes lots of bubble too!)
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    But the leaking fluid has me slightly more concerned. The old oil was black, but the new oil is creaming a bit. Not a full on cappuccino, but suspiciously close.
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    Might just be agitated air from the change over, might it be some leaking coolant and shot gaskets? Trouble for another thread I suppose!
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    That bike looks like a roach, frankly.
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    Canít go too far wrong for $2,300.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewebbinaro View Post
    The old oil was black, but the new oil is creaming a bit. Not a full on cappuccino, but suspiciously close.
    Might just be agitated air from the change over, might it be some leaking coolant and shot gaskets?
    When you took this picture was it right after startup? Take the bike for a ride to get the motor fully warmed up and then look at the oil window when you stop. I suspect it'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1100S View Post
    When you took this picture was it right after startup? Take the bike for a ride to get the motor fully warmed up and then look at the oil window when you stop. I suspect it'll be fine.
    Thanks @bcs1100s!

    Yes indeed. Weather here has been quite crap as of late. Cold and wet, so the bike's been in my garage. TOday's drying out, so I'll give it a good spin and see how it looks.
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    There is moisture in the oil. It might be from some other source but is probably coolant. So the question becomes which seals or gaskets can allow coolant to contaminate the oil. The head gasket is an obvious possibility. I am not sure of the design of the water pump and whether a seal or gasket could be the source. Those are however the two most obvious possibilities to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    There is moisture in the oil. It might be from some other source but is probably coolant. So the question becomes which seals or gaskets can allow coolant to contaminate the oil. The head gasket is an obvious possibility. I am not sure of the design of the water pump and whether a seal or gasket could be the source. Those are however the two most obvious possibilities to me.
    It is most likely the water pump seal, they are known to go bad at under 30K miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewebbinaro View Post
    TOday's drying out, so I'll give it a good spin and see how it looks.
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