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    Are we rally go'ers

    Still getting what we pay for? Or expect when we go to club rallies?

    I am a long time rally rat... Been going to local and national rallies for about 20 years. Every year, I hear local clubs complaint about how their attendance is down and they are barely breaking even. Yet in the past couple of years, I have gone to rallies where we were fed a Friday night meal of hot dogs (or hamburgers, rarely both), and had two night of camping and usually a Saturday night meal of some kind. That is for my $45 or $50. I ask you all, and the people putting on the rallies.... Where is my $$$ going?

    I don't mind paying for a good meal or two (breakfast is a bonus). But I expect a nice place to camp, clean bathrooms and someplace to shower. Music is a big plus! Is that too much to expect?

    My first rally of the year, 3 of the door prizes went to club members! I'm paying for those trips?!?!?! This past weekend, my Sat night meal looked like it went through a grinder, and we didn't even have showers! In the past, I went to a rally where they served spaghetti from a can! I don't think so...

    As my good friend said to me today, "never have I paid so much, and gotten so little".

    I look forward to hearing what you all have to say.

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    You obviously have never organized such an event!

    $45.00 registration
    Now sub track -
    camping cost per night
    Saturday Catered meal fee
    Friday night Hotdogs, buns, etc.
    Saturday morning Donuts
    Food for Sunday breakfast
    Firewood
    Rally Pin
    Plates, napkins, soda, Coffee, Creamer, and everything else that need bought
    Insurance fee's

    Members pay registration just like others attending and are illegible to win a door prize.

    Where else can you spend a weekend for that kind of money?

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    Smile

    Can't speak for the little get-togethers (though I attended one in Galena, IL some time back), but I've always thought that for all that gets set up, provided and the multi-nights of camping facilities, vendors, entertainment, etc., the MOA National Rally is an outstanding value. It could cost 50% more than it does already, and I still wouldn't feel 'cheated.'

    Hope your smaller rally experiences turn out better in weeks to come. gsjay makes a compelling argument for where the $$$ goes.
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    I have quit going to rallies of any kind. Would rather go camping and riding with my wife.
    There is an exception the BMW MOA Workers Rally in Gettysburg PA, rather than getting something we had to give something. Kudos to Sam Booth for having organized it.


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    I have to agree that rally's are a great bargain. I do a lot of tent camping off the motorcycle, and a KOA one night stand will cost from $23 to $30 per night just to start off. Add in the food, and all the volunteer hours to set up the event, and I consider the events the best kept secret for summer travel adventure. I always try to schedule a tour around a rally, for the total value of the package, including the social interaction of meeting new friends. I find it hard to understand the entitlement position of many who attend a rally and complain about the value of the offering; but would encourage anyone who thinks a function could better provide an experience, to step up to the plate and become involved or re-involved ( if you used to help out 20 years ago, you might just be surprised how expensive things have gotten now in the present) to help out with stretching the dollar value further.....
    To all of the folks who bust their butts to put on a rally, "THANKS" as I look forward to starting my 015 tour season at the Land of Oz rally and many more to go throughout the season.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsjay View Post
    You obviously have never organized such an event!

    $45.00 registration
    Now sub track -
    camping cost per night
    Saturday Catered meal fee
    Friday night Hotdogs, buns, etc.
    Saturday morning Donuts
    Food for Sunday breakfast
    Firewood
    Rally Pin
    Plates, napkins, soda, Coffee, Creamer, and everything else that need bought
    Insurance fee's

    Members pay registration just like others attending and are illegible to win a door prize.

    Where else can you spend a weekend for that kind of money?

    Jason
    I have not participated in putting on a rally and I appreciate those that do. It is, however, true that some organizers make a dollar go much further than others. But the real difference in rallies, in my opinion, is the degree of the welcoming atmosphere established by the organizers and regular attendees. To paraphrase Al Capone... You get more with a smile and a hotdog than with a hotdog alone.
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    I think sdpc2 asks a valid question. It's important to know what one supports and where the money goes in a small non-profit.

    We just finished our local rally (thanks to everyone who came!! Hope to see you next year) and here are some of the things we spent money on that came from the $40 pre-registered folks paid:

    I'm sure I'm missing a lot.
    We use private land so instead of a fee to the owners, we pay utilities for the time we are there.
    Paint for the signs we used to direct people in (they have to be repainted every few years...this was that year)
    All the food for meals, snacks, etc. for 150 people for 3.5 days (Hotdogs, hotdog buns, condiments, onions, chilli, potato chips, nacho chips, cheese, salsa, jalapenos, watermelons, danish, muffins, all the things that go into white chicken chilli, bbq pork, hamburger buns, and stuff I'm forgetting)
    Things to put the food on/in (Plates, bowels, plastic trays)
    Things to eat the food with (forks, spoons, knives)
    Things to drink (coffee, tea, water, hot chocolate, hot tea)
    Things to put the drinks in (coolers with pour spouts, coffee pots, hot water kettles)
    Things to drink out of (styrofoam cups, plastic cups)
    Things to wipe up your messes (napkins, paper towels, etc)
    Cleaning supplies to clean the things we use to cook
    Cleaning supplies to clean the showers daily
    This year we had to replace some of the cookware we use to make the things people eat
    Tickets for the prizes someone else wins
    The prizes someone else wins. We spent a bit over $150 this year (that stuff isn't all donation these days)
    Baggies for all the registration stuff
    Arm bands
    The registration paperwork
    Insurance
    Tents to house registration and to give people shaded places to congregate.
    Things to store durable goods in until next year
    Tables to sit at
    Chairs to sit on
    Portable toilets
    Firewood (Some of it sourced from the property some of it not)
    Donation to Ride for Kids or the Foundation

    All of this for the weekend cost attendees $40 ($50 at the door)


    In contrast a few weeks ago I attended the Thumper Thaw F650 club rally (one of the most awesome virtual clubs by the way)
    There was $0.00 Rally fee and we got nothing.
    Camping cost me ~$45 and then another $40 or so in food.

    Things start to have added costs when we talk about the hotel rallies like the Weekend Getaways. Nicer venues bring significant added costs. I thin kthey are still a value filled way to spend a weekend, but prices of events goes up every year.

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    What if you shoot your eye out, kid? (OK not likely at a rally but you get the idea)
    Yeah, they have to be covered for that.
    I think I paid $33 at GR3 this year and that was without pre-registration discount.
    That's pretty cheap entertainment AND I get to see folks I haven't in a while. That's worth the price of admission right there

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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    I have not participated in putting on a rally and I appreciate those that do. It is, however, true that some organizers make a dollar go much further than others. But the real difference in rallies, in my opinion, is the degree of the welcoming atmosphere established by the organizers and regular attendees. To paraphrase Al Capone... You get more with a smile and a hotdog than with a hotdog alone.
    What he said /\. +1
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    All are a bargain

    I attend a lot of rallies and I have never left feeling I did not get my money's worth.
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    I am not much of a rally goer, it's been several years since I have been to one, but $45 for a Friday, Saturday night camping rally doesn't sound exorbitant to me. Two night camping fee at most private campgrounds will take care of the $45. If you're getting fed in addition to that for the entire time, sounds like a pretty good deal. Gotta face it, a dollar is not worth what it used to be.

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    Just attended my first rally, Mortons Spring Fling. The group ride, dinner and brilliant after-dinner speaker were worth every cent of my fifty bucks, without counting the vendors and the Friday night BBQ (20 bucks including free beer). Can't complain about a thing.

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    Thank you all for your input

    I wonder what are the most significant costs of the rally? What costs have risen most dramatically over the past say 5-10 years?
    Enjoying the ride, but always on the alert for a rally.......

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    Food and paper products. The portable toilets are surprisingly expensive.

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    Food
    Paper products- utensils
    Ice
    Toilets
    Trash
    Firewood
    Insurance

    It's a big deal to put on a big show.
    IMO, the quick- impromptu get-togethers are fun but tough to repeat. As the event grows, so do the costs at more than a one to one ratio.
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