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Harley Recall
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ponch1
Ponch
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Kent -
It would be best all the way around if you would provide more insight on your comments rather than just throw down a lawn sausage and walk off. Care to enlighten us as to your thought process??
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Lawn sausage. I love it. Thank you, you made my day.
Dude,
Do you have any line of reasoning that controverts mine? Surely not or you would have written it. But go ahead and "almost" call me a name. You need to be able to take what you dish. And this isn't MSNBC man. We are talking about motorcycle stuff here.
Wellston.
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It must be that BMW now has what they judge to be a stock of non-defective fuel strips as replacements. After all, what's the point of doing a recall to replace defective parts with defective parts?
I sincerely hope your are right. I've read posts of people having these fuel strips replaced multiple times, so they certainly didn't solve the problem after the first bad batch. Be interesting to hear if there are any failures on the most recent ones. Since I haven't seen any link to a "12 year warrantee" on the new fuel strips, could one of you provide that?
Also, let's tone down the language so this thread doesn't vanish. Explained differences of opinion are great - we all learn something. Short-hand profanity or veiled attacks on a person serve none of us.
Thank you.
36654
New member
" Harley said in documents posted Friday by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that the motorcycles are limited at the factory to 5,600 RPMs, but Harley offers performance calibrations that let the engine rev higher than the limit. If the bikes hit 5,800 RPMs, the top engine mount bracket can vibrate too much and cause the ignition switches to malfunction.
The company said it began looking into the problem after its service department discovered that an ignition switch slipped out of the "on" position in testing. Harley found four warranty claims and complaints about the problem, all in bikes with non-Harley exhaust systems."
Setting aside the BMW/H-D corporate morality issue, isn't it amazing that a vehicle can be produced and marketed based on the noise (i.e., vibration level) it produces? H-D and the aftermarket exhaust manufacturers are just hitting a brick wall in the Physics Playground..........If you want a high noise level, you need to produce aerodynamic pressure waves.....that means vibration. Eventually, that vibration will yield fatigue failure......somewhere on the vehicle or the next door neighbor.
The company said it began looking into the problem after its service department discovered that an ignition switch slipped out of the "on" position in testing. Harley found four warranty claims and complaints about the problem, all in bikes with non-Harley exhaust systems."
Setting aside the BMW/H-D corporate morality issue, isn't it amazing that a vehicle can be produced and marketed based on the noise (i.e., vibration level) it produces? H-D and the aftermarket exhaust manufacturers are just hitting a brick wall in the Physics Playground..........If you want a high noise level, you need to produce aerodynamic pressure waves.....that means vibration. Eventually, that vibration will yield fatigue failure......somewhere on the vehicle or the next door neighbor.
"Most recent" models went back to floats...strips are history like their "power" brakes.
KenDittrick
Rocky Bow BMW Riders #197
I see this Harley issue no different at all than a common issue some of us (including me) have experienced with sudden FPC failures on our BMWs. I was on an extremely busy expressway in the Left hand lane with no escape route travelling ~120Kph surrounded by cars and most importantly one very close behind me when mine failed. RTs slow down REAL FAST with no fuel and I can say I had a few seconds of great concern as I managed to squeeze left as far as possible against the median to avoid being hit from behind. There is no BMW recall for the replacement part even though I firmly believe this is an issue that compromises safety. They do have a different recall for the potential water ingress issue however that was not I experienced what my bike.
Therefore I do acknowledge Harley as recognizing a safety issue and at least responding to it. In BMWs cause it was not acknowledged or responded to.
classicvw
Active member
DUDE,
It's in my post. If you had been paying attention you might have seen it.
I would also seriously doubt a manufacturer's claim that the fault only occurs within a small window at a RPM range that the user isn't even supposed to operate in. Why then recall a vehicle for a fault that only occurs when the product is only being used in a manner not intended? Why not then recall it for not performing well off-road? I also have doubts that the fault can ONLY occur at that vibration level at that RPM range. Who's to say that vibration doesn't happen in other ways at other speeds too? Sorry, but my B.S. warning went off.
osbornk
Old man in the mountains
GM recently recalled a bunch of new vehicles for inaccurate fuel gauges. http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/03/autos/gm-suv-recall/index.html
If your statement is fact, it raises other questions: 1. Can the float system give the digital readouts of the strip system? 2. If so, why did BMW not replace faulty strips with a float system? Or did they start using float systems again before they found "the final answer" to the fuel strip problem? And I am questioning whether they did.
I think it fair to say that very few of us care how our gas gauge (or digital readout work.) We simply want it to be pretty accurate and not have a flashing light when you know you have a half tank of fuel.
So, has this problem been resolved for new bikes and have the folks with problems had them resolved without charge?
Am I asking the right questions?
36654
New member
OK, since I owned number 30 of the initial US production lot of the K75c (1986) and it had no fuel strip (just a low fuel level warning light), what early K-models are you talking about?
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