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    [QUOTE=AirBender;959973]For those of you that have used the Nav V with music....I currently have all my music in my Samsung Galaxy S5 which I could Bluetooth to whichever headset (Sena or Cardo) I end up getting. My question is for ease of use and to be able to use the Wonder Wheel...would you recommend I load my music onto the Nav 5 and listen to it thru there? Or should I Bluetooth stream it separately using my phone?[/QUOTE

    When the helmet, phone and nav/bike are paired the media player in the gps will default to the bike and the media palyer is not available for use. Pre 2014 you could just pair the helemt to the gps and use the media player. I have nnot been succesful on the 2014. I just use a thumb drive in the usb port. I can control volume, previous tack and next tract with the wonder wheel. How ever I haven't been able to do much else with the data on the thumb drive. There may be away and I just haven't stumbled on to it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirBender View Post
    For those of you that have used the Nav V with music....I currently have all my music in my Samsung Galaxy S5 which I could Bluetooth to whichever headset (Sena or Cardo) I end up getting. My question is for ease of use and to be able to use the Wonder Wheel...would you recommend I load my music onto the Nav 5 and listen to it thru there? Or should I Bluetooth stream it separately using my phone?[/QUOTE

    When the helmet, phone and nav/bike are paired the media player in the gps will default to the bike and the media palyer is not available for use. Pre 2014 you could just pair the helemt to the gps and use the media player. I have nnot been succesful on the 2014. I just use a thumb drive in the usb port. I can control volume, previous tack and next tract with the wonder wheel. How ever I haven't been able to do much else with the data on the thumb drive. There may be away and I just haven't stumbled on to it yet.
    I understand your frustration now Buck. Hopefully a solution will present itself through trial and error. Afterall it would be nice to be able to use the wonder wheel as the main control for all of these functions.
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    Pairing the 2014 1200RT with the SENA

    After several attempts to get everything paired together (bike audio, Nav V, iPhone and SENA) I have {maybe} discovered that unless you are using the OFFICIAL BMW bluetooth helmet communication system ($500+), you can only bluetooth to the bike audio OR the Nav V. The BMW helmet bluetooth has two channels dedicated to communication with the bike, the SENA has only one. All other channels are set up for intercom communications.

    After trying to bluetooth the bike audio and the Garmin I found that one or the other was being dumped, leaving only one connected and the other searching. You can see this in action if you bluetooth the Nav V and then try connecting to the bike. The small dot on the left of the bluetooth indicator keeps flashing indicating that the bike audio is searching for a connection, but can't find it because the Garmin has it in use.

    I want to use the bike audio for my entertainment because I have options of FM, AM, and of course satellite radio (which will give me endless reception over lots and lots of miles). The Nav (Garmin) will still give me visual cues, but no audio. (for some reason she does audible "Please proceed to highlighted route", but then no turn by turn after that. If i'm in heavy traffic or an unknown city it is nice to have the audible cues. At that time any other input can be a distraction anyway.

    So I guess the options at this point are: buy the BMW System and have my helmet shipped to an installer, or listen to the radio on the long hauls, or switch to Garmin on the bluetooth when I think I will need it. Easy to switch to the Garmin because it seems that when I tell it to connect bluetooth it dumps the bike audio anyway.

    If anyone has had any other experiences or finds that I'm in error I would love to hear about it. It's a work in progress.

    It's also nice to just shut it all off and listen to the bike anyway. (hum a little "Born to be wild")
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirBender View Post
    For those of you that have used the Nav V with music....I currently have all my music in my Samsung Galaxy S5 which I could Bluetooth to whichever headset (Sena or Cardo) I end up getting. My question is for ease of use and to be able to use the Wonder Wheel...would you recommend I load my music onto the Nav 5 and listen to it thru there? Or should I Bluetooth stream it separately using my phone?
    I currently have my music loaded into my Nav V and paired to my SRC in my Schuberth C3. Sound wise it works great, BUT, every so often the music cuts in and out for a few seconds. Very frustrating to say the least. When paired to my old Zumo 550 the music doesn't cut in and out at all. Other Nav V owners have reported the same problem when playing music from the Nav V via Bluetooth to their various brand name headsets. For now, stay with pairing your S5 for your music listening needs till Garmin fixes the glitch.
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    @OldNuke..

    This was a problem with all the 600 series ZUMO (which the NAV-5 is based on.) Garmin came up with a firmware update about 4 months ago that fixes that problem. I would imagine the BMW firmware should have received the same update. You may want to connect to the Garmin website and see if you can locate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deilenberger View Post
    @OldNuke..

    This was a problem with all the 600 series ZUMO (which the NAV-5 is based on.) Garmin came up with a firmware update about 4 months ago that fixes that problem. I would imagine the BMW firmware should have received the same update. You may want to connect to the Garmin website and see if you can locate it.
    I have all the latest updates in my Nav V, but the problem still exists. Communicated with Garmin support earlier this summer regarding the problem. They acknowledged my inquiry, but have yet to hear back from them about any resolution to the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNuke View Post
    I currently have my music loaded into my Nav V and paired to my SRC in my Schuberth C3. Sound wise it works great, BUT, every so often the music cuts in and out for a few seconds. Very frustrating to say the least. When paired to my old Zumo 550 the music doesn't cut in and out at all. Other Nav V owners have reported the same problem when playing music from the Nav V via Bluetooth to their various brand name headsets. For now, stay with pairing your S5 for your music listening needs till Garmin fixes the glitch.
    I agree...I think that will be the easiest and least problematic solution. I have a question for you....I ordered my RT without the factory installed radio or speakers. (I just don't envision myself using it) Do you see any positives or negatives to that in terms of BT connectivity? Appreciate it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirBender View Post
    I agree...I think that will be the easiest and least problematic solution. I have a question for you....I ordered my RT without the factory installed radio or speakers. (I just don't envision myself using it) Do you see any positives or negatives to that in terms of BT connectivity? Appreciate it!
    You wont miss the radio and/or speakers in my opinion, especially on a motorcycle. A Sena or Schuberth SRC Bluetooth system combined with a phone and/or MP3 player that supports A2DP profile will well take care of your music listening needs aboard your motorcycle. On the plus side, I like the wireless aspect of the Bluetooth systems. On the negative side, is the battery life between charges, where some systems are better than others. Sound quality on such systems is a personal judgment.
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    Nag V, BMW Com, IPhone 5s

    [QUOTE=bdfbeemer;960016]
    Quote Originally Posted by AirBender View Post
    For those of you that have used the Nav V with music....I currently have all my music in my Samsung Galaxy S5 which I could Bluetooth to whichever headset (Sena or Cardo) I end up getting. My question is for ease of use and to be able to use the Wonder Wheel...would you recommend I load my music onto the Nav 5 and listen to it thru there? Or should I Bluetooth stream it separately using my phone?[/QUOTE

    When the helmet, phone and nav/bike are paired the media player in the gps will default to the bike and the media palyer is not available for use. Pre 2014 you could just pair the helemt to the gps and use the media player. I have nnot been succesful on the 2014. I just use a thumb drive in the usb port. I can control volume, previous tack and next tract with the wonder wheel. How ever I haven't been able to do much else with the data on the thumb drive. There may be away and I just haven't stumbled on to it yet.
    I have the Nav V installed in the dash of a 2015 GT, and am using it with a C3Pro/BMW Com system installed, with an iPhone 5s.

    I found the volume, and quality of sound lacking when paired as BMW recommended, which was Helmet>Bike>Nav>phone.
    In addition, the 'wheel' wasn't that friendly for music (IMHO)...scroll time slow, etc etc.

    The solution I ended up with was Helmet>Nav>iPhone.
    I bypassed the wheel and bike altogether...

    IMHO, the sound clarity is a lot better, and the volume is louder.

    However, there is a trick to get the Nav V to work this way - otherwise, once in dash the gps will lock you out of the music folder - the trick is to take electrical tape and cover the 3rd post from the bottom on the right side, as you look at the back of your Nav V. Once that post is covered, it will allow you access to the media folder in the Nav V, while its in the dash.

    I have a 64 GB card installed, and have transferred music to it - though it has to be .mp3 format (which is a bummer)...I'm using mehTunes with my iTunes library...it automatically converts your selection (playlist) to mp3, and you can select the destination folder (card in Nav V)...

    A bonus for me, is I don't end up with duplicate songs (by converting my ALAC m4a to mp3) in my iTunes library...

    Anyway, that was my solution...
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