need help with a paint/body work problem. As everyone knows, 'skeeters here in Florida are a big problem. When I am in the garage, I have to spray myself liberally with deep woods off in order to do anything. Unfortunately, the overspray got all over the plastic bodywork on my 2012 1200rt, side cases mostly. Also unfortunately, I didn't notice it right away, so it had a chance to stick!! Now it looks like a case of a really bad paint job; like little "fish eyes" all over. I have tried Windex, soap and water, carnuba cleaner/wax, light polishing compound, all to no avail. Anyone got any ideas?
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lmo1131
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And you regularly put that stuff on your skin. .. .. .?
OFF's active ingredient is DEET, it was developed for the Army (Viet Nam)
See -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEET
At this point you might consider giving the part a "paint job" using more OFF... maybe you can get the fish eyes to connect into one surface - I joke.
OFF's active ingredient is DEET, it was developed for the Army (Viet Nam)
See -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEET
At this point you might consider giving the part a "paint job" using more OFF... maybe you can get the fish eyes to connect into one surface - I joke.
Like most things that are real effective, DEET does have some drawbacks. It would be interesting to see what the concentration of DEET was in the product you used. Without seeing it, if it's a real problem, I'd get the recommendation of a high-end body shop in your area and let them take a peek.
Good luck and Welcome to the Forum. Gary
Good luck and Welcome to the Forum. Gary
lkraus
New member
I have repellent that is 100% DEET - it is very effective but until it dries completely it does melt vinyl and plastic. I try to be very careful where I am standing when I spray it, and wash my hands after spraying to make sure I am not leaving fingerprints in anything I might touch. I'd suggest you try rubbing compound (again) in hopes that the damage is only in the clear coat. If you cannot rub it out, you will likely need to have the affected parts repainted.
lmo1131
New member
Sorry you took it that way. My apologies.
Detail clays are good idea... abrasive, but not too abrasive. My guess is that the DEET has etched it's way all the way through the clear coat and into the color coat so I wouldn't expect too much.
Other Alternatives.
1 - Take them to an automotive paint shop and see if the techs can wet sand them out. It would take a deft hand and a series of fine grades (600-800-1500-2000) abrasives to get the job done. The panels would still require a fresh coat of clear to bring the surface gloss back. Again, my guess is that the DEET has etched it's way all the way through the clear coat and into the color coat so I wouldn't expect too much.
2 - Pick up a can of Krylon Fusion Clear Gloss and apply over the entire panel; the "specks" should get covered by it. If you've waxed the surface you're done, you won't get much to adhere to the surface.
3 - live with it ....
I'd go with option 1 and at least talk to the shop manager about it and have him recommend a local custom bike painter for the job.
miairhead
New member
This site has lots of products to restore finish.
http://www.autogeek.net/detailingtools.html?gclid=CPLJnsqK-7cCFbNj7AodTmUAVQ
I think you can ask a question and get an answer back.
http://www.autogeek.net/detailingtools.html?gclid=CPLJnsqK-7cCFbNj7AodTmUAVQ
I think you can ask a question and get an answer back.
I had a feeling that it was less than 100%, which is good for you. Chances are, with a little finesse, you will be in good shape. Brake fluid is kinda a bugger on a nice finish also. Good luck. OM
We've all been there.I agree with the 3 ideas mentioned - adding some options
overall
- try the clay first, but agree, probably little success - the solvent has pitted the clear - but it's a cheap try
- try to rub out with a buffer and a series of polish grits from course to final finish - but the clear may get real thin by conclusion
If at that time, no satisfaction, the wet-sand is the next step. I've done that and patience resulted in success. Of course, the clear was off and I was down to color.
I'd look for something better than Krylon clear - see the automotive guys for a better product than what is available at a WalMart. I've used Dupli-Color with satisfaction - kinda.
- been there before - was resolving a scratch on my Titan Silver '07 and it was perfect, until I rushed the project and ended up raising the paint with clear coat because is was still soft.
Good luck - even a mistake can be considered a success - you've just learned how NOT to do something.
overall
- try the clay first, but agree, probably little success - the solvent has pitted the clear - but it's a cheap try
- try to rub out with a buffer and a series of polish grits from course to final finish - but the clear may get real thin by conclusion
If at that time, no satisfaction, the wet-sand is the next step. I've done that and patience resulted in success. Of course, the clear was off and I was down to color.
I'd look for something better than Krylon clear - see the automotive guys for a better product than what is available at a WalMart. I've used Dupli-Color with satisfaction - kinda.
- been there before - was resolving a scratch on my Titan Silver '07 and it was perfect, until I rushed the project and ended up raising the paint with clear coat because is was still soft.
Good luck - even a mistake can be considered a success - you've just learned how NOT to do something.
SteveAikens
Proud Veteran
Actually, as you get older, you do get wiser. That added wisdom comes from experience. Personally, though I'm sorry to hear of your problem, I'm also very happy to be reminded that Deet and cured paint aren't friends. Oddly, I actually worked with that crap in Nam and completely forgot how nasty it is.
The recommendation to visit a good paint and body shop is a good one. I was stunned to see what my local shop can do without opening a can of paint. Good luck.
Post#9, item 1, is the better answer. It needs to be looked @ with a knowledgeable eye -IN PERSON!,(and by someone thats not slathering at the prospect of an into your wallet experience) not decided via a website about AB/paint work. If your lucky it can be scuffed & cleared again, if not $$$. I once owned a Walkman that had my poncho etched into the plastic (and somewhat attached too
) via Deet.
We need the "club volunteer" to spray ... well, I was gonna crack a joke but the OP is suffering enough
) via Deet. We need the "club volunteer" to spray ... well, I was gonna crack a joke but the OP is suffering enough
Polarbear
Polarbear
Spray vs. liquid deet;
I never knew this would do paint in! Sorry for your issue here, but I bought the wipe on liquid Deet from REI a few years ago called "Jungle juice". Its 98% Deet. I never did like the sprays anyhow, breathing it and all. The liquid works really good, just don't drip it on paint I see? Thanks for the heads up, as I ride Alaska next month and figure to need the deet soon enough. Funny and sad how them little critters(mosquitoes) can cause so much grief. I remember Florida and those Love Bugs too, flying all about in certain times of year. They killed paint too and we frequently sprayed Pam on our front paint panels to keep them from killing the paint. Washed it off at end of days. Good luck. Randy
I never knew this would do paint in! Sorry for your issue here, but I bought the wipe on liquid Deet from REI a few years ago called "Jungle juice". Its 98% Deet. I never did like the sprays anyhow, breathing it and all
. The liquid works really good, just don't drip it on paint I see? Thanks for the heads up, as I ride Alaska next month and figure to need the deet soon enough. Funny and sad how them little critters(mosquitoes) can cause so much grief. I remember Florida and those Love Bugs too, flying all about in certain times of year. They killed paint too and we frequently sprayed Pam on our front paint panels to keep them from killing the paint. Washed it off at end of days. Good luck. RandyAh that sux. I would consult with a custom painter in person, not over the phone with the affected parts. He may take an interest and try to solve your problem on the spot with very little cost to you. Sounds like it would at least require three stages of compounding-polish and maybe that would not do the job. As some others suggested wet sanding may be required. Best to let a pro that has been there tackle it, lessons are sometimes expensive. Hope for the best for you.
CarolinaRT
Member
Body shop
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The BMW dealer did a great touch up on my wife's car (various small paint problems). Paint professionals can get it right.
+1
The BMW dealer did a great touch up on my wife's car (various small paint problems). Paint professionals can get it right.
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