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Just came to this thread and don't know any of the background. That being said, I am really surprised about the "official" response of the MOA leadership and the widespread agreement thereof.
While I understand, that the MOA can not and should not take on BMW NA on beahlf of individual members when it comes to issues, it is, after all an "owners club" and should assume some kind of representation of owners' interests.
Why would I join an owners club for? To get a magazine with trip reports from South America? To participate in a mileage contest? To elect and follow a group of people to help satisfy their desire to organize a club ( Germans call it "Vereinsmeier" )? I will ask myself these questions again when my current 3-year membership is up for renewal.
Just came to this thread and don't know any of the background.
Just came to this thread and don't know any of the background.
To take the funds from the vast majority and use it in a way that will only affect a small number of people is not really fair.
How many members, again, voted to have a "foundation?"
How many members, again, voted to have a "foundation?"
Has the food fight started?
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I was around and still remember the days when BMW MOA and Butler and Smith (the importer) and later BMW of North America saw themselves as adversaries. When BMW MOA saw itself as having "clout" it took a while but we did discover that we had no such thing really. And the membership suffered to a degree by the bad relationship between BMW MOA and BMW.
Now to the current case. BMW offers a 3 year - 36,000 mile warranty to protect against defects in materials and workmanship. Honoring that warranty for three years or 36,000 miles is their duty. Beyond that time period, whether we like it or not (and I don't) they are entitled to tell us to go pound big rocks into little grains of sand.
I might decide that taking a trade offer from the dealer of about half of retail for a 7 year old bike that needs a new motor wasn't all that bad. In my specific case I suspect I would be getting out the tools and putting the bike on my lift to install a used motor. But this is all just me. I know others see it differently.
... "eating" a few bikes that have been pure junk is a good idea. Maybe they do already at BMW, just its a great secret.
Amazing, none of us have a clue what the dealer would do with the moto and yet your guessing they will screw someone and not detail the problem.
Given any thought to BMW giving the dealer the 4k, taking and destroying the moto?..............
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Some of you seem to hate BMW so much that I find it funny and frightening at the same time.
I've owned a bunch of BMW's since I found them in '01. A very few wty claims were settled quickly. I once needed to ask an exec a question and got his number in less than 2 hours.
How many members, again, voted to have a "foundation?"